Package: mailman
Version: 2.1.5-1
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I set up a couple of news<->mail gateways at
http://lists.madduck.net. All of them have been working fine for
a week except for comp.lang.c++.moderated. However, the newsgroup
surely had its share of traffic in the last seven days.
Thus, I wonder if newsgroups with a '+' in their name are not
handled properly?
I cannot find more information on this. However, I would be happy to
assist you in finding the bug!
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Hi Martin,
* martin f krafft <[email protected]> [2004-10-10 19:39:04 +0200]:
> I set up a couple of news<->mail gateways at
> http://lists.madduck.net. All of them have been working fine for
> a week except for comp.lang.c++.moderated. However, the newsgroup
> surely had its share of traffic in the last seven days.
>
> Thus, I wonder if newsgroups with a '+' in their name are not
> handled properly?
Well, I do not know if the plus sign cause any trouble. Do you see
anything in the logs maybe?
> I cannot find more information on this. However, I would be happy to
> assist you in finding the bug!
As I have never done gatewaying to a news server, and do not have access
to any news server, can you please give me an address of a dummy news
server/newsgroup where I may test how Mailman works in a scenario you
described? Ie the newsgroup is moderated, but my messages from Mailman
would be ignored?
Thanks,
Laszlo/GCS
The problem is that the news are not fetched. I have not tried to
actually post to the newsgroup yet.
And no, I do not have a demo newsgroup, and I cannot give you access
to the mailman instance as it runs on an official server. But I can
share the configuration and log entries with you and hope to be
otherwise useful.
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* martin f krafft <[email protected]> [2004-10-14 23:44:53 +0200]:
> The problem is that the news are not fetched. I have not tried to
> actually post to the newsgroup yet.
Please try if possible.
> And no, I do not have a demo newsgroup, and I cannot give you access
> to the mailman instance as it runs on an official server.
No problem, understood.
> But I can
> share the configuration and log entries with you and hope to be
> otherwise useful.
First can you please tell me which OS the news server running on
(Woody/Sarge maybe?); which version of the news server and any extra
configuration settings that may be related to this bug.
I would like to reproduce this here.
Thanks in advance,
Laszlo/GCS
also sprach Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi <[email protected]> [2004.10.14.2352 +0200]:
> > The problem is that the news are not fetched. I have not tried to
> > actually post to the newsgroup yet.
> Please try if possible.
If I have something to say I will. I am not going to have time for
C++ for at least another month.
> > share the configuration and log entries with you and hope to be
> > otherwise useful.
> First can you please tell me which OS the news server running on
> (Woody/Sarge maybe?); which version of the news server and any
> extra configuration settings that may be related to this bug.
> I would like to reproduce this here.
No idea. I don't run the news server.
200 idnews.unizh.ch DNEWS Version 5.7e1,, S0, posting OK
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Subject: Re: Bug#275866: [mm-deb] Bug#275866: does not gate news from comp.lang.c++.moderated
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:58:43 +0200
Hallo! Du (Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi) hast geschrieben:
> First can you please tell me which OS the news server running on
>(Woody/Sarge maybe?); which version of the news server and any extra
>configuration settings that may be related to this bug.
>I would like to reproduce this here.
mailman communicates with the nntp-protocol with a newsserver, so the
version of the newsserver shouldn't normally be an issue.
i guess that mailman somewhere interprets the + in the groupname as
'one char or more'.
Cord
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Subject: Re: Bug#275866: [mm-deb] Bug#275866: does not gate news from comp.lang.c++.moderated
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:27:52 +0200
Hi Cord,
* Cord Beermann <[email protected]> [2004-10-15 21:58:43 +0200]:
> mailman communicates with the nntp-protocol with a newsserver, so the
> version of the newsserver shouldn't normally be an issue.
You are very right, I am just beginner with NNTP. I mean I used it as
an user a lot in 2000/2001, but can not remember newsgroups with '+' in
the name, even if that was moderated. I thought it is unique to that
NNTP server, which turned out to be a commercial one for Unixes (and
for only RedHat Linux).
> i guess that mailman somewhere interprets the + in the groupname as
> 'one char or more'.
You mean regexp or concenation? I will test it, installed inn2, but
don't yet know how to really set it up to have moderated newsgroups
(access and normal newsgroups already set up). Do you know any good
tutorials on inn2 setup?
Thanks,
Laszlo/GCS
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Subject: Re: Bug#275866: [mm-deb] Bug#275866: does not gate news from comp.lang.c++.moderated
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 16:12:37 +0200
Hallo! Du (Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi) hast geschrieben:
>> mailman communicates with the nntp-protocol with a newsserver, so the
>> version of the newsserver shouldn't normally be an issue.
> You are very right, I am just beginner with NNTP. I mean I used it as
>an user a lot in 2000/2001, but can not remember newsgroups with '+' in
>the name, even if that was moderated. I thought it is unique to that
>NNTP server, which turned out to be a commercial one for Unixes (and
>for only RedHat Linux).
a + is a seldom used, but allowed character for a groupname. a quick
grep through some grouplist shows 8 groups all in de.*
it has nothing to do with moderation. (that is handled elsewhere.)
As the Bugsubmitter wants to use Mailman to get newsarticles to mail,
moderation of newsgroups isn't involved here. (btw: i think there are
more sane solutions to establish something like that)
>> i guess that mailman somewhere interprets the + in the groupname as
>> 'one char or more'.
> You mean regexp or concenation?
my guess is simply that python soemwhere interprets the + where it
should not.
> I will test it, installed inn2, but
>don't yet know how to really set it up to have moderated newsgroups
>(access and normal newsgroups already set up). Do you know any good
>tutorials on inn2 setup?
you need a newsgroup with a + in the groupname like:
de.rec.music.rock+pop
de.comp.hardware.cpu+mainboard.misc
or something. it doesn't have to be moderated.
hth,
Cord
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