Debian Bug report logs - #548896
Please rename the texlive binary package to texlive-medium/minimal/whatever

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Package: texlive; Maintainer for texlive is Debian TeX Task Force <[email protected]>; Source for texlive is src:texlive-base (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: Frank Küster <[email protected]>

Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:48:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Found in version texlive-base/2007.dfsg.2-4

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Bug#548896; Package texlive. (Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:48:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Frank Küster <[email protected]>
To: BTS submit address <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Please rename the texlive binary package to texlive-medium/minimal/whatever
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:45:29 +0200
Package: texlive
Version: 2007.dfsg.2-4
Severity: wishlist

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my experience, the most confusing fact for users of downstream-packaged
> version of TeX Live is that a package named "texlive" exists, which does *not*
> correspond to the default install scheme of upstream TeX Live (btw this is not
> specific to Debian, I think).
>
> IMHO, it would help a lot if either:
> - the "texlive" package installs all (ie, it's texlive-full)
> - there is no "texlive" package, but a series of packages like
> "texlive-minimal", "texlive-medium", ..., "texlive-full".
>
> It would avoid a lot of bad surprises and/or misunderstanding for end users.

We should consider this, so I opened a bug report. texlive-minimal is
for sure not the correct name for the current "texlive" binary
package. With that name, every developer would assume that it's some
minimal collection needed for building of autogenerated input files
(that's the only connection most non-TeX-addict Debian developers have
with TeXLive). 

texlive-medium doesn't sound very nice to me.  Other suggestions?

Regards, Frank

-- 
Dr. Frank Küster
Debian Developer (TeXLive)
VCD Aschaffenburg-Miltenberg, ADFC Miltenberg
B90/Grüne KV Miltenberg




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Bug#548896; Package texlive. (Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:27:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #10 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: أحمد المحمودي <[email protected]>
To: Frank Küster <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: BTS submit address <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#548896: Please rename the texlive binary package to texlive-medium/minimal/whatever
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:17:18 +0200
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:45:29PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> texlive-medium doesn't sound very nice to me.  Other suggestions?
---end quoted text---

texlive-typical ?

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Bug#548896; Package texlive. (Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:27:15 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Bug#548896; Package texlive. (Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:30:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Rogério Brito <[email protected]>:
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Message #20 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Rogério Brito <[email protected]>
To: Frank Küster <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Naming of texlive
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:15:42 -0300
(sorry for the short msg, but I'm just leaving now).

texlive-standard?

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Bug#548896; Package texlive. (Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:24:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #25 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Danai SAE-HAN (韓達耐) <[email protected]>
To: Frank Küster <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#548896: Please rename the texlive binary package to texlive-medium/minimal/whatever
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 00:14:57 +0200
Hi

2009/9/29 Frank Küster <[email protected]>:
> texlive-medium doesn't sound very nice to me.  Other suggestions?

texlive-standard sounds good IMHO, as well as texlive-typical.
texlive-general also comes to mind.

Best regards

-- 
Danai




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Bug#548896; Package texlive. (Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:18:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard <[email protected]>:
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Message #30 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard <[email protected]>
To: "Danai SAE-HAN (韓達耐)" <[email protected]>
Cc: Frank Küster <[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tex-live] Bug#548896: Please rename the texlive binary package to texlive-medium/minimal/whatever
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:21:04 +0200
Danai SAE-HAN (韓達耐) a écrit :
> 2009/9/29 Frank Küster <[email protected]>:
>> texlive-medium doesn't sound very nice to me.  Other suggestions?
> 
> texlive-standard sounds good IMHO, as well as texlive-typical.

As Karl already objected, the "standard" or "typical" installation, as far as
the TL team is concerned, is a *full* installation. The problem with the current
name "texlive" is precisely that people could think it is the standard, so
"texlive-standard" would be even wors IMHO.

I like the texlive-basic proposal by Ulrike, which is quite clear.

Manuel.




Information forwarded to [email protected], Debian TeX Maintainers <[email protected]>:
Bug#548896; Package texlive. (Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:42:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to أحمد المحمودي <[email protected]>:
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Message #35 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: أحمد المحمودي <[email protected]>
To: Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: Danai SAE-HAN (韓達耐) <[email protected]>, Frank Küster <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#548896: [tex-live] Bug#548896: Please rename the texlive binary package to texlive-medium/minimal/whatever
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:03:38 +0200
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:21:04PM +0200, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote:
> I like the texlive-basic proposal by Ulrike, which is quite clear.
---end quoted text---

+1

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