Debian Bug report logs - #719860
powertop: wrong power report status

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Package: powertop; Maintainer for powertop is Kan-Ru Chen (陳侃如) <[email protected]>; Source for powertop is src:powertop (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>

Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:33:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in versions powertop/2.0-0.3, powertop/2.6.1-1

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Bug#719860; Package powertop. (Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:33:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>:
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From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[email protected]>
Subject: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:58:25 +0530
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Package: powertop
Version: 2.0-0.3
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

Please look at the attached screen shot. The over all power consumption
is reported 11.4 W where as the the Laptop fan power estimates alone is
shown 13.1 W. Is this correct ???

-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (101, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.10-2-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_IN, LC_CTYPE=en_IN (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages powertop depends on:
ii  libc6             2.17-92
ii  libgcc1           1:4.8.1-2
ii  libncursesw5      5.9+20130608-1
ii  libnl-3-200       3.2.21-1
ii  libnl-genl-3-200  3.2.21-1
ii  libpci3           1:3.2.0-3
ii  libstdc++6        4.8.1-2
ii  libtinfo5         5.9+20130608-1
ii  zlib1g            1:1.2.8.dfsg-1

powertop recommends no packages.

Versions of packages powertop suggests:
pn  cpufrequtils       <none>
ii  laptop-mode-tools  1.63-2

-- no debconf information
[powertop.jpg (image/jpeg, attachment)]

Information forwarded to [email protected], Patrick Winnertz <[email protected]>:
Bug#719860; Package powertop. (Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:03:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Julian Wollrath <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Patrick Winnertz <[email protected]>. (Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:03:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #10 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julian Wollrath <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:58:02 -0400
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Hi,

that seems strange. Could you please try a more recent version [0] to
see if that one still shows such a high power consumption for the fan?
Thanks.


Best regards,
Julian

[0] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/jw-guest/powertop.git
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Information forwarded to [email protected], Patrick Winnertz <[email protected]>:
Bug#719860; Package powertop. (Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:33:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Patrick Winnertz <[email protected]>. (Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:33:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #15 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>
To: Julian Wollrath <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:01:39 +0530
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I tried the git version and the problem persists. I'll send the screenshot
later

s3nt fr0m a $martph0ne, excuse typ0s
On Aug 17, 2013 9:28 PM, "Julian Wollrath" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> that seems strange. Could you please try a more recent version [0] to
> see if that one still shows such a high power consumption for the fan?
> Thanks.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Julian
>
> [0] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/jw-guest/powertop.git
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Information forwarded to [email protected], Patrick Winnertz <[email protected]>:
Bug#719860; Package powertop. (Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:39:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to [email protected]:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Patrick Winnertz <[email protected]>. (Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:39:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #20 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>
To: Julian Wollrath <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:04:11 +0530
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On Monday 19 August 2013 03:01 AM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> I tried the git version and the problem persists. I'll send the
> screenshot later
attached

-- 
Ritesh Raj Sarraf
RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com
"Necessity is the mother of invention."

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Message sent on to Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>:
Bug#719860. (Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:57:08 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #23 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jose Luis Rivas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 13:24:53 -0430
Hi Ritesh,

In the last screenshot you sent from 2.4 I can't see the report of the
laptop FAN, yet, you said it persisted. Could you try again?

2.4-1 is already in unstable.
-- 
Jose Luis Rivas
http://joseluisrivas.net/



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Message #28 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>
To: Jose Luis Rivas <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#719860: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 12:33:25 +0530
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On Sunday 01 September 2013 11:24 PM, Jose Luis Rivas wrote:
> In the last screenshot you sent from 2.4 I can't see the report of the
> laptop FAN, yet, you said it persisted. Could you try again?
>
> 2.4-1 is already in unstable.

The Laptop Fan is not reported any more. But still, the power
consumption reporting is wrong.

What is your say? Isn't the sum of the items in the "Power estimates"
column suppose to be the total power consumption ?

-- 
Ritesh Raj Sarraf
RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com
"Necessity is the mother of invention."


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Message #31 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jose Luis Rivas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#719860: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:55:08 -0430
Hi Ritesh,

More data?

Why is bad the reporting? What's reporting? Comparing with `acpi -V`?

Thanks for your feedback!
-- 
Jose Luis Rivas
http://joseluisrivas.net/



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From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>
To: Jose Luis Rivas <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#719860: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 12:13:35 +0530
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On Wednesday 04 September 2013 09:55 PM, Jose Luis Rivas wrote:
> More data?
>
> Why is bad the reporting? What's reporting? Comparing with `acpi -V`?
WHat more data do you want? I think I've provided you with enough
screenshots.

acpi's reporting is different than what powertop shows. I can't see much
commonality in their results.

-- 
Ritesh Raj Sarraf
RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com
"Necessity is the mother of invention."


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Message #44 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[email protected]>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: powertop: wrong power report status
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:57:39 +0530
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Package: powertop
Version: 2.6.1-1
Followup-For: Bug #719860

Please find the acpi -V output below, though I can't find any point to build relation with powertop's output.


$acpi -V
Battery 0: Discharging, 87%, 05:20:00 remaining
Battery 0: design capacity 2680 mAh, last full capacity 2680 mAh = 100%
Adapter 0: off-line
Thermal 0: ok, 127.0 degrees C
Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 128.0 degrees C
Thermal 1: ok, 30.0 degrees C
Thermal 1: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 128.0 degrees C
Thermal 1: trip point 1 switches to mode passive at temperature 55.0 degrees C
Thermal 2: ok, 0.0 degrees C
Thermal 2: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 128.0 degrees C
Thermal 3: ok, 0.0 degrees C
Thermal 3: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 128.0 degrees C
Thermal 4: ok, 0.0 degrees C
Thermal 4: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 128.0 degrees C
Thermal 4: trip point 1 switches to mode passive at temperature 102.0 degrees C
Thermal 5: ok, 40.0 degrees C
Thermal 5: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 128.0 degrees C
Thermal 5: trip point 1 switches to mode hot at temperature 99.0 degrees C
Cooling 0: x86_pkg_temp no state information available
Cooling 1: intel_powerclamp no state information available
Cooling 2: Processor 0 of 10
Cooling 3: Processor 0 of 10
Cooling 4: Processor 0 of 10
Cooling 5: Processor 0 of 10


I've tried powertop on 3 machines, and everywhere I get weird readings. It sure is a powertop problem. It could also be a screwed up thermal driver. Look at the thermal output. It has been wrong for months now.


Please also see latest screenshot attached. It report that the bridge interface is consuming 50 W of power.


- System Information:
Debian Release: 8.0
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_IN, LC_CTYPE=en_IN (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages powertop depends on:
ii  libc6             2.19-15
ii  libgcc1           1:4.9.2-10
ii  libncursesw5      5.9+20140913-1+b1
ii  libnl-3-200       3.2.24-2
ii  libnl-genl-3-200  3.2.24-2
ii  libpci3           1:3.2.1-3
ii  libstdc++6        4.9.2-10
ii  libtinfo5         5.9+20140913-1+b1

powertop recommends no packages.

Versions of packages powertop suggests:
pn  cpufrequtils       <none>
ii  laptop-mode-tools  1.66-2

-- no debconf information
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