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Yes, that is where my quote came from. From your own quote:

> The District Court should clarify its directive, with due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs.

Which is such a ridiculously bullshit line of thought. This wasn't some person who willingly went to some random country, this is someone the executive illegally put there against the person's will in coordination with said foreign government. I can guarantee you that any order with teeth will be struck down by SCOTUS on this line of thought.




I'm not sure why people obtusely intepret Supreme Court rulings as though they're part of the current administration.

The court is obviously saying that (1) it's correct and necessary to bring him back but that (2) the District Court doesn't have unbridled authority to order any foreign policy-influencing remedy it wants.

I.e. a US court couldn't order a president to sign a treaty

If the administration tries to foot drag further, the Supreme Court will likely order more specific remedies.

By not taking the L here, the administration is just burning whatever conservative goodwill they might have started with on this Supreme Court.


They're already disobeying the court, including both the lower court's order and the supreme court's order to attempt repatriation, as well as the lower court's order to provide information on the victim's ___location and attempts to retrieve him. They disobeyed numerous court orders to rehire people they fired and re-fund things they defunded.

What makes you think the administration cares about goodwill after that? Disobeying direct court orders is crossing the Rubicon. There's no going back to the illusion that judicial judgements will be respected by this administration.


> They're already disobeying the court, including both the lower court's order and the supreme court's order to attempt repatriation

They tried to weasel around the verbal vs written order, and the consequences of that are still being worked out.

They then appealed the order to immediately bring him back, and the Supreme Court paused that while it decided.

The decision then directed the District Court to clarify the how of what it was demanding.

So "somewhat" and "no": they haven't directly ignored the Supreme Court.

Unless you'd care to cite a specific case and quote from a ruling?

> Disobeying direct court orders is crossing the Rubicon.

Appealing a decision is different than ignoring.

And like the multiple other times it historically happened? https://www.fjc.gov/history/administration/executive-enforce...


> They tried to weasel around the verbal vs written order...

On numerous occasions (not just the one you mention), they did not obey the direct order by the time specified, meaning they directly disobeyed the court. For example, post-supreme-court-order, they were obliged to provide the lower court with a status update of the victim, and a list of things they've done so far to retrieve them. They directly violated that court order.

It's important to draw a bright, flashing distinction between:

1. Arguing that you think you should not have to comply with an order, but then complying if you don't receive a ruling in your favor in time.

2. Directly violating a court order, and then tossing out a cynical pretext as an excuse which hasn't been preapproved by the judge (they're called that for a reason).

Unless a stay is placed before the deadline, you must comply with every single court order, by the court-ordered deadline, no matter what you think.

At least, that's how it was before. Now the USA has crossed the Rubicon, with the government itself ignoring court orders at will, in order to imprison political enemies.

It was a decent liberal democracy while it lasted.


I think the SCOTUS was right on the money this time, and I am well to the left of any of its members. My read of their verbiage about effectuation/article II was a suggestion to the District Court judge to eliminate any wiggle room the administration would try to exploit.




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