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What happens when people are tol 1. Don't trust the media 2. Don't trust the opposition 3. Don't trust the experts

Doesn't this lead to a situation where only bad actors exist?

It people are so savy because of advertising why did tens of millions believe the election was stolen?




> What happens when people are…

Everyone doesn’t fit those criteria. Motivated reasoning exists with and without propaganda. The specific words used may end up mimicking “a message,” but you can find millions of disgruntled people after any election.

There’s a great deal of talk around how much social media etc changed the landscape but American politics looks basically the same before and after Facebook.


>American politics looks basically the same before and after Facebook.

Trump and MAGA Republicans lie more openly than traditional Republicans. American politics are not the same.

Here's an easy exercise.

This is a post from MGT. Show me anything even close to this insane from an elected person in high office (house, senate, president) in the last 50 years

https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/st...


That’s fairly mild, but it’s not so easy to link to 20+ year old clips. There’s some real bangers of homophobic rants in your time frame, but you may be a little young to remember any of them.

In terms of lies here’s one that was a central tenant of the part of the party line for decades. Social security isn’t an income tax because we have a tax called the income tax.


>but you may be a little young to remember any of them. I'm 45

> Social security isn’t an income tax because we have a tax called the income tax.

I took too long to be able to edit my other comment but I should have asked who said this? Because "social security" isn't a tax at all. In my other comment I assumed you meant tax we pay to fund SS but this still leaves me confused, can you provide me with a quote that shows the lie?


> Because "social security" isn't a tax at all.

There’s a line on your W-2 that literally says “4. Social Security Tax withheld” https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw2.pdf

You literally just said “SS tax is a tax on your income”


Homophobia isn't lying, it's an opinion/ judgement

>Social security isn’t an income tax because we have a tax called the income tax.

SS tax is a tax on your income, "Income Tax" is a type of tax. Both are true


> Homophobia isn't lying, it's an opinion/ judgement

The lies about gay people are actual lies, even if they come from homophobia.

Luring people into gayness, crap about destroying the institution of marriage etc etc.

> SS tax is a tax on your income, "Income Tax" is a type of tax. Both are true

When taking about “tax burden,” there’s no excuse around the names. I’ve got little interest in digging up 20 year old clips, but you’re 45 you should remember that phrase.




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