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No, they don’t have the same strengths but the net effect is similar.



How can the net effect be similar if the actions aren't?


Their goals are similar. There’s lots of different ways of achieving similar ends. I’ve seen a lot more paid commercials from Israel side, but a lot more posts using Palestine’s side talking points.

Same way you can build a wood or brick home, historically which people chose had a lot to do with local materials.


>Their goals are similar.

This isn't then your previous comment that the results are similar.

Goals aren't nearly as important as results.

Also, to dive deeper, what goals and how many are similar, and how similar?

If you mean they are both supporting Israel, then yes, but the Democrats exert more control over their actions. For example Biden was limiting the bomb size that Israel could purchase and Trump removed that.

So if you want to help the Palestinians one side is the better than the other. It doesn't matter if the goals are similar or even the results. There's still a difference and as you can see voter apathy only helped Republicans


> If you mean they are both supporting Israel

I have been talking about the propaganda from each sides of the current conflict in Palestine. I thought this make that clear “in this conflict so it’s really interesting to see how each side is using propaganda” but I may have misunderstood what you meant by supporting Israel.

> This isn't then your previous comment that the results are similar.

To be clear I’m noticing similar goals combined with something (diminishing returns?) yield similar results. Hell, it could also be a form follows function kind of thing, I’m noticing the results not doing a research paper.

> what goals

When I say they have similar goals I mean they are both trying to sway public option to support their agenda.

There’s a bunch of different kinds of kind of propaganda. If one side was doing a call to action for their supporters like “Buy war bonds!” then I presume the results wouldn’t seem so similar.


>When I say they have similar goals I mean they are both trying to sway public option to support their agenda.

Ok, but that's every politician (and many people as well). What their specific goal is matters. If one political party supports Israel 40% [4] and the other 80% then there's a difference. It's possible to support Israel and the Palestinians at the same time as well so it's not a clear "this or that"

>yield similar results.

If you are saying something like "Israel is still attacking Palestinians no matter who is elected" yes but to the same extent? What about aid to Palestine?

In 2018 Trump cut $200m worth of aid to them [1] then in 2021 Biden restored it [2]. I can understand if the issue is that neither party are going as far as you might want but that doesn't really make them same and not voting [3] doesn't make sense if you care because it can only make things worse for the Palestinians

Your argument reads like a general frustration with politics, which I get, but it still exists and will always exist. Not participating is the worse option imo.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-cuts-more-than-2...

[2] https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20210407-us-restores...

[3] Not accusing you here

[4] Just a made a fake scale of support from 0 to 100 for the example


> In 2018 Trump cut $200m worth of aid to them [1] then in 2021 Biden restored it [2].

I am not referring to US politicians here. This has nothing to do with republicans and democrats. I am referring to what propaganda from Israel and Palestine directly + groups paid and unpaid supporting their agenda.

> Ok, but that's every politician

Politicians don’t just talk about the same thing one may highlight poverty and another jobs etc.

Here each side (Israel, Palestine) is taking about the same topic (___location, war), trying to gain sympathy by talking about bad things that happen to specific people recently, etc

> Your argument reads like a general frustration with politics

If I was equally uninterested in politics and everyone was always talking about the deficit I might feel the same way. But this really does seem unusually similar.




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