Another Kubernetes-based option.

Sealos: https://sealos.io

Covers development, testing and production environments.

Also open source: https://github.com/labring/sealos

I think that's a good point.

A common tactic now is to have this idea of lock-in. That if you don't continue to use said service you loose everything. This forces you into that subscription and makes it extremely hard to transfer and move.

I have seen many apps that lock data export behind enterprise subscriptions - that have no pricing and only "contact us".

I do think there are times it may make sense to have some unique file format (maybe your app does something special and needs that format) but there should always be a way to get that data into something more standard. Whether that's a text file, a CSV file or something else.

I have not used it and it may not be exactly what you want. But I seem to remember hearing PayPal offers a virtual card that can be used online.

Disclaimer, I'm on AFFiNE's team.

But I really think you can check us out as I think we can cover those boxes for you.

We offer real-time collaborative editing which also works offline. We deal with all those conflict issues for you.

And though we aren't file-based, we do offer various export options such as MD, HTML, PDF and images.

We expect to have the latest Docker version and real-time collaboration available towards the end of this month. In the mean time I'd invite you to try the client to see how it feels.

Are there plans to make it e2ee?

That's an interesting idea - sort of like Word and compatibility mode? But with clearer communication on what's MD supported and not?

As others mentioned this might be down to browser. It's currently targeted for Chrome.

It's for this reason we recently switched to desktop clients for the parent project, AFFiNE. To create a more standard experience for all users.

As BlockSuite development is currently targeted for AFFiNE, but we hope to resolve many of these browser issues in the future.

You would be surprised - Block Suit has been particularly common

Yes, this is exactly the reason why.

Thank you all for your attention to BlockSuite, the comprehensive project behind the amazing AFFiNE open-source notetaking app. BlockSuite aims to provide a progressive solution for building collaborative applications.

It includes a block-based framework for composing rich content editors and an out-of-the-box block editor tailored for the AFFiNE knowledge base. With block-based editing, text editing and state management are handled block-by-block, supported by CRDT technology for distributed collaboration.

BlockSuite also offers framework agnostic rendering for scalability and flexibility. For more information about BlockSuite and the AFFiNE project, we welcome you to visit https://affine.pro/ where you can also try it in action.

AFFiNE - the next-gen knowledge base is an open-source alternative to other popular apps such as Notion. It's also privacy focussed and provides a local-first experience.

Maybe, but the link is 404.

Yes you are right, ran into a little caching issue.

Should be good now.

Same here, maybe it's a privacy feature?

Exactly! Can't just let anyone in.