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Why are they not being shot down at the very least?


The FAA looks down on people shooting at flying objects they can barely recognize, as this guy learned the hard way: https://www.yahoo.com/news/retiree-shot-walmart-delivery-dro...


> DroneUp Delivery was working on mock deliveries for Walmart and had set up a delivery point outside of Mr Winn’s ... home

> The defendant stated he had past experience with drones and believed they were surveilling him

The question I'm left with after reading that article - was this test delivery point for a single trial run, or did this company choose one random ___location and then repeatedly send tests there over and over? If it's the latter, that seems like it should also warrant criminal charges.


Companies should not be sending UAVs to anyone’s property without permission, period. This stuff needs to get sorted out in law and these bozos need to back off.


Shooting large, apparently car-sized, stuff down over populated areas isn't a good idea.

As an aside, I presume at this point, the military and FBI are stationing their SIGINT aircraft over the area and probably have a good idea what's going on but aren't saying publicly. These things are emitting electromagnetic energy in more ways that one, eg. radios and electric motor RF signatures.

RIP the SkyCircles accounts on Twitter.


Some of these photos are of passenger planes. I think most agree that shooting down passenger planes is bad.


Also rather hard to accidentally do if you have equipment capable of shooting down aircraft.


Why? Just follow them and see where they land / head to (they can't fly forever) and ask some questions to the owners.


supposedly they originate and return to somewhere out in ocean. presumably boats or submarines.


Unsubstantiated rumors. I say they come from mole people underground. The same reliable source as your information i’m sure.


Not confirmed but not unsubstantiated. A coast guard ship filed reports of them both arriving from out at sea and returning to sea. Also several local sheriffs have observed the same.

The War Zone is always a reliable source for national security related reporting -

https://www.twz.com/news-features/coast-guard-ship-stalked-b...

I feel this story from them would have been a better post for HN audiences.


"Shot down" with what? Surface-to-air missiles? Duck hunters with shotguns? Attack helicopters with miniguns?

Whatever you spray into the sky (to knock a drone out of it) will also fall back to earth, plausibly generating civilian casualties on the ground. (And if you use lasers - high power laser beams have plenty of safety issues, too.)


If Ukraine is any indication you shoot them down with other drones.


No one in Ukraine is in the habit of shooting down commercial airliners and helicopters, though.


No they used Buk missiles instead.


where they = the Russian military or Russian-military aligned terrorist groups.


Ukraine's capabilities in that ___domain are plausibly far more advanced that America's.

Also - costs, casualties, & collateral damage may be far more acceptable in an active war zone, and against drones which are busy killing people & destroying valuables whenever they are not shot down.


Ukraine's capabilities mostly consist of ramming a cheap drone into an expensive one.

This is one of those times when the US has a Maginot Military - massively overpowered against traditional threats, inexperienced when dealing with something like this.

This is not a trivial problem. A cheap drone with a relatively small explosive payload flown into an air intake can take down a military aircraft and cause serious problems for an airliner or private jet.

An airfield is the ideal place to do that, because aircraft are most vulnerable during takeoff and landing.

A few people and a hundred drones launched from a few km away can significantly delay incoming and outgoing flights.

Equip the drones with weapons - or larger explosives - and it's potentially Pearl Harbour.


Source? AFIK, the US trains soldiers in drone countermeasures, small and large.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb5qMvie9sU


That's kind of reductive. I know some people who have, uh, relevant experience. The cheap drones are pretty comprehensively engineered and they're complex in the same way that a ballpoint pen is not as trivial to manufacture as it looks.

But yeah, Maginot Military sounds about right.


But they engage only big drones. Like reconnaissance Orlan or Zala, maybe lancet. No one is shooting down fpv quadcopters, not yet.


Shotguns are being used for that purpose. Single buckshot from the top of a AR barrel are in vogue too. Someone should use a cheap arduino and a mike for aiming and shooting at fpv quadcopters. I really don't understand why that's not here yet. They can literally convert a toy from github.


They are "being used" but shotguns are the last line of defense. Good luck stopping a little FPV drone with one. If you do not disable it by 50ft you dead. And you have like 10% odds. Way better than 1% odds you might have with a rifle or nothing but...

Jamming is first line of defense, a million times more effective FWIW.


One counter measure is no counter measure. If you look at toys like https://hackaday.com/2023/06/13/arduino-powered-missile-syst... and scale it up with bigger and stronger servo's for holding a shotgun instead of fake missiles; you'll have a second war - with the arms industry. For a bonus you'll also win the war of economy because the bill of materials costs less than a mad maxed FPV drone given you source the shotgun from the land.


> Duck hunters with shotguns?

Duck Dynasty season 12 is going to be a doozy


I don’t think anyone has the tools to go to an area after a spotting and capture/destroy them quick enough.


Not to mention that it's illegal to shoot down aircraft


It's always wrong (in every possible way) to be the first one to engage hostilities. To be morally in the clear, you should always wait for the other side to engage first. If we didn't follow this doctrine, we would've already had a nuclear holocaust. Warmongers and civilization don't mix.

We don't know anything about their capabilities as individual drones or as a cluster of drones. For all you know, when you shoot one, the other ten take that as declaration of war.


According to this logic we should wait untill Iran creates a nuke and only then destroy their nuclear facilities, right?


We should follow the drones to see where they land, and continue the investigation from there.

There is no evidence that the drones carry WMDs, or that they're dangerous like Iran. If we had reason to believe that the drones are associated with WMDs, then it would be okay to neutralize them, but we don't. Because of false assertions about WMDs, we've already had one unnecessary war in Iraq. How many more do you want?


Why should we attack Iran if they develop a nuclear weapon? That seems pretty unprovoked.


Nothing these drones are doing are illegal.


Gravity


It's my go-to in macOS 14.5 as well. I tolerate using Spotify as a player for it's library. A plain list is all I actually want 99% of the time.


Same here. Hoping I can jump ship before next renewal.


Doable with USB-C to USB-C cable from Camera into iPhone into Capture One app


> Surely no one expects other things like road maintenance to be financially self-sustaining?

I have never once in my life heard anyone describe the US Military through such a lens.


Can't wait to get this in a computer that can use that amount of power.


I've been using an M2 Mini for a while now, and this would definitely get me to upgrade. It's finally a worthy upgrade.


Why cant the mac use it?


I think m4 is ipad only right now.


Oh wow. That’s crazy overkill


/r/ipad is very shoulder-shrug about the announcement. We've been asking for better software at least since 2020.


hopefully will be resolved in a month.


Probably just random AI features rather than what you want, being able to run Mac OS apps.


You gotta let that go. It’s just not going to happen.


With the new frameworks in ios17 it’s clear that Apple is slowly converging on providing the tools for easily compiling for Mac and iPad from the same codebase.


IIRC, Apple likes to use the iPad Pro to introduce shiny new technological features that may or may not end up in Apple's other products. (mini-LED HDR and 120/variable Hz display refreshcomes to mind.)


Yeah that’s how they announced it. Surprised a lot of people. There was a rumor from Mark German but it seems wild they would do that.

They did.

But you can be sure it will be in the Mac line as they announce the next updates.


Probably because it is a passively cooled tablet ...


They've been doing exceptional work. Glad to see the co-op style publication working.


Appreciate the mini-guide here, inspired me to give nnw and rss in general a place in my day again rather than just checking the sites manually.


Glad to help! I should have added I started light, then added in some more stuff once I had a working system.

I had tried RSS years ago and my feed then was unwieldy enough I never checked it. This attempt is smaller and stuck


I was curious what would happen if you add many. Turns out that around 1000-3000 feeds the chaos starts to self-organize. I have 30 000+ subscriptions now and it's just wonderful.

Beyond the sweet spot you cant not filter out topics covered by everyone. You are aware Tucker interviewed Vladimir, there is Genocide in Gaza, Bidden has nothing interesting to say anymore. You just cant have tens of thousands of articles about David Bowie dying. You know that already.

And then.... when you've silenced the echo what remains is all the other things that happened in the world, the small, the unique, the rare, the interesting... the real www?

The funniest thing was businesinsider: They echo a lot but their titles are so descriptive they hit pretty much every filter I've created. That what remains is actually interesting. I think something like 0.01%! The next website with its "You will be angry when you find out about this!" articles must be extremely fascinating 100% of the time (this never happened) to avoid getting blacklisted.

I do quests like find feeds for press releases for all fortune 500 companies.

Best one thus far was to take a list of all countries and find 1-5 English news feeds for each. Turns out many have an English version of the national news that absolutely no one reads. Who is to say that if you have a few million people, nothing interesting happens there? Their official stance on events on the other side of the world is often so free from bias it is almost boring. A war becomes just a war without good or bad guys.

Whatever government websites publish is usually worth reading the headline of.

HN is a good website but the curated list of headlines on the front page requires the topic to appeal to the audience, the audience isn't as broad as other websites but it's a serious limitation compared to that what you find interesting.

If HN was to one day decided to force onto the front page each new book about eating bugs there is probably one guy out there excited about it. Then comes breeding bugs and then growing plants to feed to your bugs... Our guy would be thrilled? Sadly for him it cant happen. It's unthinkable.

Facebook is actively filtering out the things I want to read. lol?

Twitter is the mega echo chamber.

Reddit echo's and filters and is littered with low effort commentary. Subs are dominated by majority perspective.

Wikipedia is a trench war.

But what were we thinking? Why should other people be held responsible for what you read and write?

There is also the angle of programmers trying not to be political or activists. Over the years the sum of little crumbs of avoiding politics or activism adds up to enshitification.

When Musk fired so many at Twitter people talked about how difficult it is to get the posts onto everyones feed.

Meanwhile my crappy laptop and my crappy internet over my crappy wifi can deal with hundreds of thousands of feeds, millions.

I can read Nazi's, Maoists, Israeli's, religious fanatics, hackers, eugenicists without them making an effort towards making their thing more palatable to the masses. Non of them are making thousands of accounts in an effort to promote their views. There are no likes, views or upvotes to be purchased.

When their new website finds their way into my aggregator (how?) I can get rid of it in a single click.


Sounds like you use GNUs. A wildebeest to set up, but, once done, nothing quite like it filters the filth.


How much time you spend reading the news?

It this point, I would probably invest some time into automating it even more. Download all articles, and save them into PDF. Create full text search over them. Use LLM for sentiment analysis...

We did something like that at bitcoin boom.


I spend 3-10 minutes scrolling over at least 1/3 of 5000 headlines. Today I open 12 in tabs doing that, I've looked at 3 of those.

I got rid of most things, I only keep [pubDate, url, title] and only if the title doesn't contain any badwords and the pubDate isn't older than the oldest item.

Each item comes with a hours and minutes ago a translate to English button, the ___domain name, and a blacklist button.

While it does take opml most of my feed lists are just txt files with one url per line.

It loads one of those files then pulls x feeds per second and parses y per second where x and y are adjusted to the pending requests and pending parse jobs.

While you could certainly do many interesting things most of my experiments didn't survive my desire to keep it simple. I for example use to dump the results on a web page. I couldn't convince myself it was useful to the goal.


It's somehow Ozempic and not the always rising, already high prices for everything required for daily life?


Also that consumers are increasingly aware of how atrocious the American diet is and want to eat food that's made out of food, not just endlessly processed nutrient-void corn covered in fucking sugar.


Is this speculation or you live seen large shifts in consumer sentiment that coincide with Ozempic?


They are correlating it with Ozempic purchases according to TFA


Ozempic purchases happen to also be correlated with rising prices, though.


Presumably they're looking at comparable shoppers before and after one starts Ozempic during the same time period. Or are you implying people are starting Ozempic to avoid buying food?


How is Walmart obtaining data on when individual people start taking Ozempic? That seems like quite a HIPAA violation.


I’d suspect it has something to do with signing up for an Ozempic discount card (which many people did / still do). Pretty sure they’re allowed to sell that data (their privacy policy seems to allow as much).


> Or are you implying people are starting Ozempic to avoid buying food?

I read a recent article that said it cost $1,000/mo. So doubtful this would be a good strategy to save money.


They would probably do something like append "-inactive" or "-archive" to the users account to give someone else the name itself


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