> he was only working on problems several orders of magnitude smaller in scope
Isn't that kind of the point? Tesla would have L4 if the architecture was built right, but it wasn't, and now they're scrambling.
I think George made it very clear that the architecture is what these companies spending billions are getting wrong. Tech debt is more expensive than you think at the cutting edge.
You know what is total fluff? Tesla FSD. Disgusting. At least comma is honest about their hardware, and that's about all it comes down to.
> I think George made it very clear that the architecture is what these companies spending billions are getting wrong. Tech debt is more expensive than you think at the cutting edge.
And yet the architectures he disapproves are the only ones who have shown fully autonomous driving is possible. There are driverless robotaxis running now, albeit in small areas but expanding.
> You know what is total fluff? Tesla FSD. Disgusting. At least comma is honest about their hardware, and that's about all it comes down to.
> Running in small areas shows that they can drive in small mapped out areas under specific conditions.
That is fully autonomous driving. It's just classified as Level 4. Geofences and operating conditions can be extended to provide a real, useful taxi service to a lot of people.
Not really. Like Karpathy mentioned in the latest lex episode, keeping an updated exact map of any area isn’t a scalable way to achieve this (which is what these geofenced services do) and isn’t how humans are able to drive.
> keeping an updated exact map of any area isn’t a scalable way to achieve this (which is what these geofenced services do) and isn’t how humans are able to drive.
Humans combine low-res maps with extremely good visual odometry & spatial reasoning. Computers don't come close to the way humans reason about space & vision yet, so stronger priors help to make up the difference.
Making it scalable to keep an updated exact map of an area is part of the work L4 companies have been doing. I think it's hard for folks on the outside to really know just how much progress has been made here. Before Google Maps existed folks didn't think you could scalably map the world either.
It's not like companies like Cruise or Waymo want to keep doing this if they can help it. It's pretty disingenuous to say that these companies don't have any incentive to jump off the mapping wagon as soon as the tech to do so exists.
In fact, L4 companies do have to deal with areas they're driving where they see the map is outdated (often these are construction zones). So either they have mapless driving capabilities to handle these cases, or they do something else (seems like Cruise cars love pulling over en masse, lol)
It’s perfectly scalable and it’s a solved problem. Maps aren’t the bottleneck in scaling. The cars don’t even require an always up-to-date map to work safely (but they are self mapping anyway). I’m not sure how long Karpathy will push this narrative because Tesla isn’t able to afford mapping like the others.
Tesla also uses maps, it’s just less detailed. If humans are able to drive without maps, why does Tesla require a map of lane geometry, stop signs and intersections?
He's a smart, talented guy, but it takes a very different set of skills to break other peoples' stuff than it does to create it in the first place. George never had much patience for the organization of people -- he's got something of a superiority complex, or at least he believes other people are almost always focused on the wrong things. This bias is true, to a degree, but it isn't perfectly true, and George was always destined to run with those who actually can and do give him a run for his money, and to run up against the limitations of his technical abilities.
Okay? I'm sorry you can't use tools as they are intended. I'm sorry you can't fit tools to their purpose. I'm sorry you treat everything like a nail. What do you want me to tell you...?
It's called MythTV. Not MythMusic, or MythMediaJackOfAllTrades. I feel that is intentional per the developers motivations. Similarly, the developers of Jellyfin are primarily motivated by TV and movie sources. I'd love if they better supported music so that my music video library can have proper tags, but I won't grill them since the TV and movie side is quite good, and Navidrome does plenty for me.
> As for the decade, do you work at being a jerk, or does it come naturally?
Imagine being offended over the easiest joke possible. Is this your first time on the internet, kiddo? That was also a joke, don't lose your head.
> I'd point out that jellyfin is a fork of Emby, which is a rebrand of MediaBrowser -- first released in 2000. Mythtv's initial release was in 2004.
Now, imagine if you had the self awareness that your know-it-all tendencies are what make you unlikeable in the real world. You'd get so much further!
> I use emacs too. Does that make me an asshole as well?
I use VIM. Should I have put a trigger warning before telling you? You sure seem sensitive enough to need one.
I made a suggestion to use a tool better suited to the task. Throwing a fit about a stranger's suggestion is entirely up to you.
I mean, I never said Plex was free. I paid for lifetime Plex Pass like 4+ years ago so I don’t have any ongoing costs.
I have no issue spending money (which is why I use Plex and not Emby/Jellyfin), I have a problem when you literally cannot spend any amount of money to get what I consider the best experience. Even if you pay for every streaming app on the planet you can’t get the experience Plex can provide (with media acquired legally or otherwise).
Unfortunately, the Plex experience is subpar for me. It frequently freezes, even on good connections, transcoding is low quality and doesn't use max quality even on a 600 Mbit line, and other jank.
Browsing my library and selecting videos to play is amazing, just the actual player itself is nowhere near as good as Netflix's.
If only there were a way to at least tell it "never transcode, just always play original quality". It's been years of this feature being requested, yet my server still tries to transcode.
You use Plex because you think it's easier to use than Emby/Jellyfin. It would behoove you to recognize where you have been successfully marketed to.
It's odd to reply to a thread about a piece of software that has always been FOSS, and parading the solution you paid for while saying "You can't pay for a better solution than something I've paid for!"
Jellyfin is a better solution than Plex, and you're not paying anything! Imagine that.
It’s odd to care so much that someone enjoys a piece of software they paid for even if an open source alternative exists. I have said absolutely nothing against Emby/Jellyfin, just that I personally use Plex. I even mentioned Jellyfin in my original statement on equal footing with Plex:
> You cannot pay for an experience that rivals Plex (or in this case Jellyfin).
You omitted that from your quote. I was stating that running your own media server (no matter the software) is better than using the streaming services. I use Plex so I talked about Plex. I wasn’t refuting the article, I was making a statement about how shitty streaming has gotten.
I didn't omit anything. I focused on a sentence you led with. More importantly, I definitely don't care whether or not you enjoy Plex. I left that ecosystem 4 years ago because the writing was on the wall, now Jellyfin blows it out of the water performance wise. Didn't even have to pay for the pithy Plex Pass!
> I was stating that running your own media server (no matter the software) is better than using the streaming services.
Maybe you should have stated that in the first place...? It is certainly clearer in terms of the message. Nobody said you can't talk about Plex, just that it is weird to lead with "I paid for this!" on a thread about free software that isn't what you paid for. If you didn't pay for Plex pass, your comment would fit better. If the Geerling article was about Plex, your comment would fit better, but it wasn't, and it doesn't.
Can you be more precise? I used Plex as a free user for a while before getting a Pass, and I seemed to have full control over my media - I could watch it remotely, etc.
Plex has fallen behind free alternatives, which is no surprise because they already have most people's money. You're not paying for a higher quality experience when you pay for Plex Pass. You're paying for functionality that has been free in other alternatives for awhile, like hardware transcoding.
Performance wise it's also bad compared to the competition.
I don't pay them for hardware encoding but for other services that the alternatives suck at. Once you know you have to pay you don't really care what you have to pay for and what you don't.
There are downsides to Plex, but do realize you're conversing with people who've used multiple options. I try Jellyfin once or twice a year and it's objectively a worse experience each time.
And again, when I used the free version of Plex the viewing experience was perfect. I guess I just don't need hardware encoding?
Hardware encoding and general performance are quite a lot of reasons. I don't think you're making your argument in good faith when you are clearly not pushing these systems to their limits like some of us are. There's no need to act like you've really tried running Jellyfin when you just chose the easier option and stuck with it.
OpSec (Operational Security) is a huge part of the game. If you want to reduce attack surface you probably want to give adversaries as little to go off of as possible.
> Why is this field so prone to hype and repeating the same things with a new coat of paint.
Money and Marketing. It's no different from how Hadoop was a big deal around 2010, or how Functional Programming became the new thing from 2015 onwards.
Personally I think this is a failure of regulatory agencies.
Isn't that kind of the point? Tesla would have L4 if the architecture was built right, but it wasn't, and now they're scrambling.
I think George made it very clear that the architecture is what these companies spending billions are getting wrong. Tech debt is more expensive than you think at the cutting edge.
You know what is total fluff? Tesla FSD. Disgusting. At least comma is honest about their hardware, and that's about all it comes down to.