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There's this, https://play.date/. Haven't heard much news about it lately though. Feel like any handheld built around a relatively cheap microcontroller should be shooting for a much lower price point.

Economy of scale only saves you so much at small batch sizes, plus I assume the unique input setup drives up the BOM price a fair bit.

I think they did a few blogposts about having initial teething troubles getting consistent manufacturing, so they might have a significant upfront expense cost to subsidize (which probably explains why they're raising the price again...)


Weird to describe something with maybe like 40 million subscribers as not terribly popular. Xbox is game pass and not a console anymore at this point.

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Improvements start because someone has a better solution to a problem, not just complaining about the current solution. We should implement x because it fixes these problems with current solution. Rather than just current solution is bad.

Point out where I said "just complaining".

many of us, YouTube Premium is pretty popular.

Wow, really? That genuinely surprises me. But good stuff. :)

Musk became CEO of Tesla when their only car was an electric converted Lotus...

Yeah, I think we should try to separate his business acumen from his nut-case personality. He can be a successful businessman AND a fucking prick.

Why are those separable to you? They aren’t at all to me. One informs the other at all times.

Who made his initial fortune as an illegal immigrant.

Inherited wealth means nothing eh?

For Java, this was around for a bit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle.

Even better was a complete system rather than a mode for arm processors that ran a subset of the common jvm opcodes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PicoJava


Didn't some phones have hardware Java execution or does my memory fail me?

It's called Jazelle.

Sun tried to build one too, they called it the JavaChip iirc. It was meant for JavaStations, kiosk machines, and mobile phones but it never took off. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_processor

No. There where Motorola phones with Motorola processors with Java Co-Processor. Not Jazelle.

Yes. I known at least one Motorola phone which had a co-processor for Java (not Jazelle)

New Tacoma's are like $40k for a pretty basic model these days.

>New Tacoma's are like $40k for a pretty basic model these days.

I thought so too, but apparently they make an extended cab one that is like 31k for the base model.


> Android Auto and CarPlay solve that problem for navigation/communication/entertainment.

I can definitely see a day where Apple or Google decide to discontinue support on vehicles older than 201x that lack some new hardware specification.


Tesla gives you access to precise trip data, surely this would be blatantly obvious when matched with gps on something like teslafi.com. Sounds like just a silly lawsuit.


Why do you say silly? Have you looked at the plaintiffs' teslafi data?


Plaintiff’s Arguments

Misleading Odometer System:

Tesla’s odometer system uses predictive algorithms, energy consumption metrics, and driver behavior multipliers, rather than direct distance measurements, resulting in inflated mileage readings (Complaint ¶¶ 3-4, 62-65).

These readings deviate from traditional odometers, over-registering mileage by 15% to 117% compared to industry standards (¶ 71).

Tesla intentionally designed, manufactured, or tolerated this system to manipulate mileage, violating California Vehicle Code § 28050 (¶¶ 69-73, 133-136).


Only thing silly is to trust Tesla.

Their own patent explains the odometer does not rely on distance travelled:https://patents.google.com/patent/US8054038B2/en

Multiple Tesla users confirm the same as far back as 2 or 3 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelY/comments/106m2dz/tesla_odome...

Edit: I researched this further. See my other post in this thread.


>Their own patent explains the odometer does not rely on distance travelled:https://patents.google.com/patent/US8054038B2/en

Where does it say that? There's 0 matches for "odometer".


The word odometer is not there. Tesla legal dept is not entirely dumb. There are strong implications throughout the patent that distance estimation, trip planning, and battery charge planning are heavily software-driven, and that mileage to be driven or driven is calculated through software, based on user input and various external conditions.


>There are strong implications throughout the patent that distance estimation, trip planning, and battery charge planning are heavily software-driven, and that mileage to be driven or driven is calculated through software, based on user input and various external conditions.

So you're saying because they're doing so much smart stuff to estimate trip distances, they must be using the same smart stuff to fudge the odometer?


If Tesla is actually fudging the odometer numbers, that also means that all of the other trip data collected by the car is suspect. You couldn't rely on it for this purpose.

It would be interesting if someone installed an independent odometer, though, to provide a trustworthy data source for verification.



We have that already, it's called GPS...people know how far things are.


GPS-derived data can also underestimate the distance if the recording frequency is too low. Probably not a big effect though. It can also overestimate distance travelled if there's a lot of jitter.


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