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That sure is some naivety ya got there. But good luck on the move. Keep your friends and family close.


I didn't see this oldie listed. Schneier on Security - https://www.schneier.com/

There are alot of fresh suggestions in this thread, I will be checking them all out.

Thanks guys.


Welcome to the club my guy. I think many of us have done this for years across many sites!


I'd rather not have my ISP decide which packets are "higher" priority and do this myself.

This is a core tenant of Net Neutrality.


Hello DANmode,

I'm trying to touch base from a few months back about a post you replied to about a start-up ISP.

I have updated my contact info if you still want to chat.


Hello Morphle, I tried to email you regarding the post you replied to a good while back about an ISP-related post. It got bounced from the ziggo.nl address. Have an updated contact point?

I have updated my contact info if you still want to chat.


You can try morphle73 at gmail dot com.

Email servers do reject messages quite often, for example when they look like spam.


25-year network architect/system admin here.

I am disappointed and furious about the progress of our communications industry. ISPs for far too long have been milking the taxpayers and foremost the customers.

During high school, I ran our town's dial-up ISP. This was a high school program to bring internet to our little town, at an affordable non-long-distance price. My most recent employment was taking a wISP from 1300 customers to 5000 customers in 2.5 years with a staff of less than 10. We had 2 IT wizards, the primary owner and myself. The rest were installers/physical maintenance and 2 secretaries.

I'm looking to found an ISP similar to my previous employer, BUT this is going to be a hybrid tower/fiber model ISP that must operate at the lowest cost to consumers possible.

I have worn so many hats it's time to put them all on at once. I'm just not sure if I can pull this off by myself nor will my savings cover the start-up cost.

Sorry for the rant, and no contact info. I should probably spin up the website/email server for contact points while thinking this over.


I have been looking for a cofounder to start an ISP since 1997 when I stopped running the first ISP I founded in 1988. I never found a business partner who didn't want to overcharge the customers.

First, fiber can be done much better than any provider I've seen. Every house 4x10gbps openflow switches with P2P fibers to the neighbours brings down the network cost below $1 per month (from $10-$25 rental). IP transit cost for most would be just $1. Maybe another $1 for a huge disk cache (TV streaming). The most expensive part of the fee would be for helpdesk, support and billing.

The router can have TOR and anonymous VPN hardware at linespeed.

Better still to do Enernet: optical plus electrical grid, so you can trade your solar and ev battery electricity with the neighbourhood.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309254511_Fiberhood...


I am not upset by ISPs. I am finding fiber to the house is a cure for the complaints I once had.

My primary frustration is the lagging adoption of IPv6 and the lagging reliance on advertising funded centrally managed servers/services that only exist to connect around NAT. For example if I wanted to text a remote user of share a file I should be able to do so without uploading to a server. In that case end-to-end encryption go from super challenging to incredibly easy.


Where would you like to found the ISP?

I may have an excellent fit for you.

Pop a contact email/other method in your bio?


Looks like Dave V. removed all the websites. I wonder if the guy ever though it'd follow him around like this.

You're famous Dave!


He’s Wikipedia famous, but I’m not sure how relevant he is in the community to warrant it. Maybe he doesn’t actually exist, and this is all a just a ruse?

I’d be interested to see if there’s any linkages between contributors to those two pages.


Nothing to do with record heat and record droughts? dude.. seriously.. Get out of here with this nonsense.


yeah no joke. But that's not what were looking at here on a global scale...


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