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I hope there is a specific order we should look at these threads.


Let's try them all and see which order is the best.


You can read them in any order


Oh no


Fear not, there is a handy proof we can use here...


Holy Hallucinations batman!

Even the example images hallucinates random text


Same for me. The receipt headline only says "Trader Joe's" and yet the model insists on adding some information and transcribes "Trader Joe's Receipt". This is like Xeroxgate, but infinitely worse.

Someday this will do great damage in ways we will completely neglect and overlook.


Salaries go to a joint savings account.

Bills / savings/ investments / daily living expenses come from that (via credit card or checking account).

We also pay each other some pocket money to spend on our own hobbies and other stuff.


The way things are going with these seizures, soon governments are going to be largest holders of bitcoins.

Good work on getting a currency without government control peeps!


It would be rather strange to expect a mechanism that bars governments from holding bitcoins to be built into the protocol, and thus it is rather strange that you expect this to have ever been the intention.


Whatever the "intention" was, what the parent says was the second most advertised supposed feature of Bitcoin by crypto bros (second, as first was "getting rich quick").


Sure, lack of government control is a main selling point, they just did not mean the term "control" in the way that both of you appear to be interpreting it.


I don't think bitcoin was designed to be impervious to government influence. The intention was to not be limited to a single controller, not that no controller be a government. Despite what some people think, bitcoin is not a "stick it to the man" invention

Ultimately if bitcoin is to reach the peak of a standard currency that some feel is inevitable (and some feel is futile) it would necessarily require government involvement. It wouldn't be a single government however. Monetary policy would have to be driven by a consensus of nations. That would possibly be the best (or least worst) way do do things.

None of this has any particular bearing on today's Bitcoin, if it's going to replace money it's not going to be in the next few decades. If it's still working in 50 years time, there might be a chance.

If you eliminate the noise of speculation on day-to-day levels of bitcoin, the underlying value difference between the current usefulness of bitcoin and the current trading price represents people placing bets on the likelihood of that success condition.


I think Bitcoin was designed to be decentralized money, and the rest was all emergent behaviour.

A lot of bitcoin holders do want it to be free from governments, though.


They dont want unilateral government seizure and dont want transactions whitelisted, and it accomplishes that

How that further manifests to some bitcoin enthusiasts probably cant cover all opinions

But its not a “government not allowed” system and its not important/useful for it to be


> The seizure came after the "accused voluntarily transferred" the bitcoins to an official wallet of the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA), police added in a statement.

Seizure is a technical word here, not what laypeople expect when they hear the word.

But yes, governments are already very big holders. https://bitcointreasuries.net/?maximized=treemap


As long as government can't print more Bitcoin, I don't see the problem!


The US Government is already one of or the largest know holder of Bitcoin. And that is without the assumption that the US Government owns the Satoshi coins. It would be fine if governments decided they want to hold Bitcoin. I see no issues.


Dumb take, anybody can hold Bitcoin.


superpowers already are in the top 10 for some time


The irony of this being a youtube video is not lost on me.


So.. I just added my card to Stocard and used it a King County. Took 2 minutes, on my phone, synced across devices.

Or yeah, you could do it that way I guess.


This eliminates the need for multiple wallets. Plus it's a fun hack.

Stocard addresses a different point in the design space.


If you are using an app for it, King County Library app already has the barcode anyway…


Only network engineers should see or care about IP addresses. The fact IPv6 addresses use colons is why people don't use IPv6 is the worst take I've ever heard.


you've /never/ heard anyone call ipv6 long, confusing, and complicated? I've basically /only/ heard people say that.

This is probably because the idealized world of "only network engineers" is leaky. Programmers, sysadmins, people trying to get their network printer to work, non-specialists have to interface with network addresses constantly.

Saying they shouldn't is not a description of reality. Not everyone who needs to set up or diagnose a network do so as a career path.

Almost all hardware and software has supported ipv6 for many many years. The humans using it are the ones that shut it off or disable it. Unless you address the human behavior of why that is, this problem will not be addressed.

I claim there needs to be a friendlier, casual interface that makes people's lives easier. It can be a crude kneecapped sheen so long as it addresses the needs of the general user. Then they'll use ipv6, not for ideology or virtue reasons about the commons but because it makes their lives easier


I've almost never heard anyone in the general population use ip addresses, with the notable exception of gamers, but that's fading away too now that all major games come with friends, parties and deep linking support

I don't really understand the use case for typing up addresses either, copy pasting is going to be more precise, and if one can't read 8 quartet of letters one shouldn't be near networking equipment either.

Heck ibans are about as complex and the general population is coping just fine


right, but this isn't theoretical. ipv6 was finalized 25 years ago and global adoption is around 1/3. There's something seriously wrong and it's not that 2/3s of the world are using Windows Me and 20+ year old devices that don't support it.

It's human and behavior driven and addressing that is a matter of packaging, process, promotion, product, presentation... all those marketing ps.


Nitpicking, but it looks closer to 1/2: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

Also it's increasing at ~5% a year, so in 12 years it'll be at ~104%.


Interesting. I guess it depends on how it's measured. I had just searched "adoption rates" and saw it said 1/3.

China is a laggard again here. I earlier saw that they were the largest windows xp holdout left. Sure it's only. 0.5% but many places are down to 0.1.


I host a few video game servers for my friends and love the fact that I can say my easy to remember IPv4 address aloud whenever they forgot it.

I have an IPv6 address but haven't bothered memorizing it or giving it out because it would just be more hassle.


This is even better:

game.latticeanimal.net. 3600 IN A 1.2.3.4


I don't know a single gamer who rented a ___domain for private use. In fact, I would argue than the hassle of setting one up is the reason why Hamachi got popular back then. You don't have to bother with knowing any technical stuff, just download a software, share a code and play.


DynDNS was big among some of my gaming friends way back in the 90s at one point, when it was a free, donation-supported tool. It was quite useful and relatively low hassle.

At the time it provided a real simple desktop tool that you would install, sign in to your account name, and it would auto-update a (very) short TTL DNS A record for you. (Generally in the form of username.dyndns.org, but as I recall donators could also bring their own top level ___domain.)

We've got mDNS today to fill some of that gap, but I still wonder if it would also still be nice to have a "no click" desktop tool in 2023 that could quickly update very short TTL DNS AAAA records for you on a subdomain of your choice, and sort of lament Dyn's many pivots (and eventual Oracle buy out) because that original idea still has legs even if it didn't survive the 90s. (Though maybe this time as a true non-profit internet service or operating system feature.)


People used to use https://www.noip.com/ and similar services for this.


Hamachi was popular back in the day because it meant you didn’t need to forward ports on your router. (Something that still confuses some of my friends).


You dont?

It was extremely common with Teamspeak.


But only network engineers pick the protocols used. You’re making life harder for the very people who should be your primary audience.

PS: As a developer, I often read logs and go ”oh yeah, that’s just our satellite office IP”. 192.168.1.110 is the network printer, etc. There’s no hope of recognizing IPv6 addresses at a glance the same way.


There's more hope than you think as a developer to recognize those types of IPv6 addresses at a glance. The :: shortcut alone also acts a shortcut for pattern matching. You may have network designs where things like {prefix}::110 is the network printer and {prefix}::beef is the cafeteria's new meat printer. Whether or not you bother to remember what exactly {prefix} is or if in worst case it changes regularly and you can mostly ignore it (after briefly pattern matching that it looks close enough to other IPs in your network).

There's different "rules" from IPv4, but as a developer those mostly don't matter and if your network engineer wants you pattern matching your network's machines, then you can just as easily pattern match your network's machines as with IPv4. (That said, there's privacy reasons your network engineers might not want that, security through obscurity and all that. That can be just as true in IPv4, but fewer companies have enough IPv4 address space to truly obfuscate the network patterns. Life is harder for network engineers in IPv6 not entirely because it "has to be" but because "privacy and security is 'easier' if we use a more complicated approach to IPv6 than we did with IPv4 where we would just sequentially number machines within our allotted space".)


No, 192.168.1.110 is MY network printer, you must have gotten confused somewhere!


Whoa buddy how did you get into my home network???


The same way we all do: A shitty modem that gives an ipv6 address to all devices, but only applies firewall rules to ipv4 addresses


Maybe if you only have five VMs or something, but when there are 100 or more the additional bits in an IPv6 address will be useful. You can recognize a whole subnet as dev, or production, or a different site, or the office LAN.


Network engineers are the one making the transition (or not).


I can see plenty of situations where colons behaviour might be confusing, let’s start with a http url on a non standard port with credentials embedded, I assume something close to http://01:02@03:04:05:06:07:8000/foo/bar would be a valid url,



Great, so now I have to learn a new uri syntax too?


Same syntax, IP just goes in [square brackets] to disambiguate.


$things_i_dont_want_to_need_to_know ++;


They aren't similarly priced though. It seems the Lenovo config is above $2000 according to https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx/th...


Considering that I cannot purchase it, I don't know the actual end price.

Lenovo's prices aren't Apple's, this laptop may be sold for similar as Mac.


In answer to your first question... https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx/th... vs https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air

So 1800 for the Lenovo vs 1200 for the Mac.

This is a meaningless comparison.


You've posted this a few times. But now the devices are actually available and X13 starts at $1097... That's $103 less than cheapest MacBook. What a difference 5 days makes, right?


For those not familiar with Lenovo's pricing, basically the sticker prices are insane but routinely get ~50% discounts after the products have been available for a few weeks. Those are brand new models that do not yet get steep discounts.

It makes comparing them on prices almost impossible.


Initrode is the name that TDWTF uses for all it's company names.


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