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It's not manufactured. The people affected were social media influencers who used affiliate links. So the incident affected a very small and specific segment of society that incidentally could broadcast this to a lot of people.


The replacing affiliate links was older news (though still news to a lot of people). The new info in the video which blew up involved them also being scummy to the end users as well.


Not really, it was pretty clear from the investigation that some youtuber that I can't remember the name of that it wasn't just that.

One of the big claim from Honey is that it finds for you the coupons with that make you spend the least amount of money, but that's false if they have an agreement with the seller to only show you certain coupons.

So no, it doesn't affect just influencers, it affects also customers and vendors.


They were still getting coupons. Thus, for 99 percent of users, it wasnt a scam; It was just another crappy product.

To anyone with a modicum of business savvy, it's not remotely surprising. You literally (don't) get what you literally (don't) pay for.


The point of GP is that some of the people specifically affected (through honey replacing their codes) were influencers / streamers, who thus specifically

> could broadcast this to a lot of people.


Is it MegaLag's video that you are referring to? https://youtu.be/vc4yL3YTwWk


Yup yup, him.


LTT certainly talked about Honey replacing other discount codes in baskets potentially making a basket more expensive, and injecting their own affiliate code when no discount was available.

It was all thoroughly scummy and against the spirit of an affiliate referral.

But I don't understand why YouTubers were so surprised. This thing is clearly generating revenue to pay off all the top shelf YouTubers and it's clearly doing that by inserting affiliate codes to generate revenue. There's no ethical explanation as to where this extra saving and Honey's revenue comes from.


How was it clearly doing that? I always assumed Honey's model was to sell detailed shopping information of users.


That still comports with OP's statement:

> There's no ethical explanation as to where this extra saving and Honey's revenue comes from.


It felt clear to me because that's where the money is. Even if you don't understand that, YouTubers would because that's how they paid from all their sponsored links.

I also wouldn't expect PayPal to recoup this huge marketing investment from very partial purchase data. It'd be nothing compared to what VISA and the other big card companies collect.


This is a funny comment. If this doesn't force Putin to the negotiation table, then you know what will - the US stopping all military aid to Ukraine. One of these things that US has done to Ukraine is bound to convince Putin, right?


Next step is humanitarian aid to russia, they got hurt by this senseless war badly and need all the help they can get. After that military aid, and then direct US military intervention killing rowdy Ukrainians who just dont know when to stop defending themselves.

WTF is this timeline :(


I used to buy a pack of cashew nuts every day during lunchtime. One day I realized my jaw has started making a clicking sound and the muscle feels kinda loose. That was ten years ago; it's gotten somewhat better and I also learned to avoid that particular motion but never recovered.


Same, I have severe TMJ and there's never really any recovery. Just learn to chew a very specific way to avoid inflaming it. Absolutely miserable


I don't understand, what did the cashews do? They're pretty soft, no?


It's the constant chewing that did me in.


Huh, really? I didn't realise that was a thing, that sucks...


Writing it down is the part where you process it. I've found that if I don't have a need to revisit or continue what I've written down, I am done with it.


Nobody in the crowd ever said the first thing.


I sure have. Mozillas main and perhaps only real mistake was that they didn't meaningfully attempt to become independent from Google the second Google started building Chrome (with Mozillas help, no less!). A truly independent Mozilla would not have needed to implement DRM, and would be shipping with adblock by default - which incidentally is exactly what made people switch from IE to FF in the first place, popup ads.

Now the ship has beached itself and the crew is frantically trying something - anything - to plug the leaks, prevent her from capsizing and trying to get her back afloat. I don't know if they'll manage, or if ladybird is the alternative to the new IE that is Chrome


I am in the EU. I opted out of targeted ads a while back when the Facebook app asked me about it and it is now showing me inline ads with a timer. I literally have to wait before I can continue doomscrolling which is just enough time to just put the phone down and go back to work. Thank you, Meta.


I'm also in the EU and I am mildly confused.

Some months ago (years?) I was shown a popup asking me to either agree to be tracked or to pay a monthly fee [1]. I chose neither and haven't logged in since.

I logged in just now and everything seems to be working fine. But then I went to the "Ad preferences" and I'm shown a message saying I have to choose between using Facebook for free with ads or subscribe, and that my information won't be used for ads until I make a choice.

Looks like my account is stuck in some weird middle ground where my data can't used for ads but I also don't have to pay. Did I get away with neither? Or will they ask me to pay next time I log in, two years from now?

[1] https://www.voanews.com/a/meta-risks-fines-over-pay-for-priv...


There's indeed a middle ground now, as far as I can tell. It's called "show less personalized ads" or something like that, but in effect I think it's showing ads related just to the page you're currently looking at. I'm perfectly fine with this model, and I'd rather we collectively go back to it, instead of ad trackers following you around on the Internet and serving you ads based on your browser history instead.

Of course that doesn't mean I trust Meta/Facebook/Instagram/Whatsapp, but at least on the surface it seems they understood the assignment.


Same, I love it because it will stop me from mindlessly scrolling. My only complaint is that if I actually wait, the next ad doesn't come soon enough.


That's one way to break the doomscrolling habit! Meta unintentionally doing you a favor. Maybe they should market it as a -productivity feature- instead of an ad strategy


Instagram helps us in the same way, yay for breaking bad habits - with (against?) the help of technology giants!


It's exercise. Use it or lose it. So when you actually need to write to express something, you're not stumbling over the process of writing.


Speed bumps are a crazy invention because they tell you what humanity is like. Let's make this road worse for driving because many drivers don't care about safety but do care about damaging their cars. I am reminded of this every time I see a speed bump.


Ever wonder why TF2 stopped stopped receiving regular updates? My theory was always that the game had turned into a massive ball of code that nobody dares touch anymore.


As a European, I feel this rings closer to truth than fiction.


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