Who knows. They were working on http2 6-7 years ago and it hasn't arrived. I was under the impression the primary dev stopped working on it and some people were able to get maintainer access for security updates but that's about it. Maybe some people re-started development but not sure and Fastify has an express compatibility layer so it's not compelling to me.
2023 I'm only thinking about express if a legacy app using it falls in my lap.
And yet coffee shops that claim to be organic, eco conscious and fair trade still penalize you for opting for a milk alternative (by charging extra, like up to $1).
As a badly lactose intolerant person, I get that oatmilk is 2x the cost. But please, you are putting in 15 cents of oatmilk, and charging 0.75 to 1.00 extra for it.
A small cup of black coffee with oatmilk for $3.50. Please.
The markup makes sense for lattes -- 12 ounces of whole milk may be $.36 at retail milk prices, but 12oz of oat milk is closer to $1.50 (see my other comment for the price comparison).
There's still a rather significant cost difference between the two. In my local market, a one gallon container of whole milk is $3.89 retail, while the barista-blend of Califa Oat Milk is $4.39 for a one quart container (or $4.99 for a half gal of Oatly).
Not really super surprising— the volumes are way lower and there's less subsidizing going on. On a grocery store shelf here in Ontario, you can get 4L of 2% regular milk for $5. But the Earth's Own products, which include oat and soy milk? Those are more like $6 for a single litre.
As a parent of young kids, we easily do 1L+ of milk per day, even when we drink water as our meal beverage. It goes on cereal in the mornings + a glass before bed + it's an ingredient for certain meals (think baking, cheese sauces, that kind of thing).
I used to make yogurt and cheese as well, but it wasn't really cost/labour effective to do so, even with milk being as cheap as it is.
Beyond the cost from the supplier, perhaps because there is a greater overhead associated with supplying that milk to a minority of customers. If everyone was drinking oat milk by default I don't think there would be a $1 upcharge.
The amount of oat you have to feed a cow to get a single litre is not even close to the literal handful you need for an oat-based milk - let alone the time and how of work that went into caring for the cows, handling the mess, etc.
It should not even be close. We simply industrialized the whole diary thing, and consider it essential.
And I say this as someone who cannot live without cheese. It should just be way more expensive and reflect the cost it has on the environment/society.
This charge was finally removed a few months ago at their UK locations, so it seems more or less inevitable in the US given that the UK is often a vegan/plant-based testbed for many US chains: https://plantbasednews.org/lifestyle/food/starbucks-ends-veg...
Sure, at least today that is more probable and maybe by now they truly did pass on. The range of possibilities are of course endless. But at that time, if we take their statement literally[1] they just moved on to other things.
Were seashells a Ponzi? What about glass beads? These were used as “currency” in our history, but nobody uses them as such anymore.
Let’s say Bitcoin is a Ponzi. What or who will do the inevitable rug pull that comes with those scams? What if the rug pull never comes (or does 1000 years from now)? Is it still a Ponzi? Was it a Ponzi for those people who benefited from it in that 1000 years?
In post-apocalyptic crunch we are likely to go back to food, water and ammo. You and I will likely be long dead before society reverts to something like gold, so I doubt gold as post-apocalyptic hedge.
