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Not offensive, but much more often wrong than person.


So the solution is to avoid the problem?


> ...and to be clear, Hacker News is not a representative sample of their customers.

I am a customer and I learned about Kagi here. I assume many people are on the same boat, so I wouldn't be so sure about that.


FWIW I'm a customer and had never read about it on HN until this post. I learned about it from a private Discord programmer community.


Same shit, really.


> I am a customer and I learned about Kagi here.

Perhaps I should have said "target customers" where I said "customers", I don't know. But it should not be surprising that "being an HN user" correlates strongly with "finds out about things on HN".


Kagi does zero advertising, only word of mouth (or from social news sites).

I would strongly bet their primary source of customers came via a HN referral.

We are literally their Target Customers.


> Upper management are just average people with better networking and less empathy

Very concise and to the point. I might print and hang this!


Excellent game. Excellent attitude towards feedback. Keep up with the good stuff!


> But anyway, even if it were all true, the only reason we are talking about diffusers, and the only reason we are paying attention to this author's work Fairly Trained, is because of someone training on data that was not expressly licensed.

Thanks for putting this into words. I'm of the same opinion and this is the best articulation I have so far.


This is very different from my experience. Whenever someone I was in a conversation with brought up GEB, it was always a great pleasure of mine. I'd get the chance to discuss the main ideas of the book, and the way I assimilated them. I tend to not even engage in conversations with people who do it mostly to show off the extent of their knowledge. I believe this second point is the important one. GEB is completely orthogonal to the problem you describe.


Because otherwise you spend too much time arguing about not-so-important matters (in a word: bikeshed - you end up bikeshedding less).


I'm trying to read and reread this over and over again to make sense of this but to me it sounds like in the comments people speak as if Greg brockman resigned while in the article he is not amongst the three names who resigned. What am I missing here?


He was fired from being Chair of the Board, but the rest of the board left him in his position as an engineer (?) in the company. Then an hour or two later he resigned as an engineer.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38312704


he resigned earlier. google it. or bing it. or chatgpt it.


ChatGPT doesn't know recent events


ChatGPT now has the ability to do web browsing to search for recent events!

https://chat.openai.com/share/c35e3fd1-d94e-477b-a331-b14384...


> It's pretty simple actually

That's true. You just need to exploit your fellow humans! Make them work for you but never pay them for the full value they bring. Always pay them the least they will still accept. So you get a piece of their pie. Your position of power will allow you to do so, and people will see your position of power as "natural" and will see no problem in the exploitation.


I think you misspelled his name. It also doesn't sound like you listened to what he had to say about the license. I suggest you do.


It's not open source by the most common definition provided by OSI. It's source-available at best.


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