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I do think it’s a good technology pathfinder, even if a flop. Using massively simpler wiring (lighter, cheaper), steer by wire and 48v for the low voltage electronics are all major steps that should have happened a decade ago.

If they can learn lessons it should help them in the future with their unboxed construction of cyber cab and hopefully something else smaller and cheaper.

Elon also said a while back if it doesn’t sell they’ll make a more normal looking version. But of course he says a lot of things.


I rode my bike to work every day for 4 years in the Yukon. -40 and big snow banks were just part of the fun.

It’s always possible.


Tipping is a disgusting practice of making others into servants.

It goes like this:

I have lots of money, you do not. if you wait on me hand and foot in just the right way and if I like it just right I might give you some money. Or not. But you have to dance to find out.

Utterly disgusting, and of course it is normal in a country with severe income disparity - people who have so much money they can waive it around to get people to dance for them while the people dancing don’t even have healthcare, maternity leave or other basic human rights.

The fact some establishments require female servers with certain physical attributes to dress in extremely skimpy clothing just reinforces this. It’s utterly vile.

(Some people will point out this is just like work and pay on general, but there are laws in place forcing the employer to pay a certain amount for a given amount of work. Not so with tipping)


Hooters could still exist if the waitresses were paid a salary or an hourly rate. Tipping isn’t the problem.

> there are laws in place forcing the employer to pay a certain amount for a given amount of work. Not so with tipping.

The laws apply a minimum pay to a fixed amount of time working. Not an amount of work. If you do 2x the amount of work as a coworker in the same amount of time, you will be paid the same.

I think you might also be confusing tipped minimum wage with actual minimum wage, and I think the article did no one any favors there.


> Hooters could still exist if the waitresses were paid a salary or an hourly rate. Tipping isn’t the problem.

There are two problems. Requiring an employee to wear extremely skimpy clothing, and tipping.

> I think you might also be confusing tipped minimum wage with actual minimum wage, and I think the article did no one any favors there.*

I am not, I understand the difference perfectly.


Yes of course, but profits are lower.

And if there is anything more taboo than sex on tv in the US, it’s reducing profits.


I’ve spent decades thinking the same, and decided I don’t want to be a part of it. I work as little as possible and spend my time exploring the world, hiking, camping, eating cheap street food.

Even driving my own vehicles around the world I spend less than $20k a year, so I don’t need to work much.

I just don’t participate in the things I don’t want to - no phone, no tv, no new clothes, used car.

I Enjoy time, not money & things.


Cool, that’s your choice. But it also exists within the economy. Nobody demands you to play a particular part in a democratic market-based economy, but you exercising your ability to buy cars, hiking gear, airfare, tents, and cheap street food and your choices are all just as much part of the economy as the choices others are making.

Further, all those choices are only available to you because others are ‘part of it’ and making services available to you.

So you participate, just with less hours, that's part of the economy

Hear, hear. I've worked for software companies for 18 years. In that time, I've taken 4-5 years off on sabbaticals to travel the world.

Life is too short to _not_ do that, in my opinion.


> Even driving my own vehicles around the world I spend less than $20k a year

20k is higher than 90% of the global population.


Absolutely, I’m well aware that what I’m doing is only a choice for people in the developed world.

Of course if I were content with walks in the park, I’m sure $10k/year would be enough.


More people should know, think and reason about this. As soon as you reach about 34-35 k$/year you’re in the top 1%, globally.

Most people thinking “the top one percent” are the problem don’t realise they are part of the one percent (and thus part of the problem)


I grew up there, but have been away for 20 years.

I went back recently for a year and saw the whole country.

It very, very much feels like a nanny state with an insane amount of rules, and regular folks who try to stop you breaking those rules.


What type of rules? Like no feeding the Kangaroos? Those things look like freddy kruger.

Remember in the lower 48 it’s physically impossible to be further than 100 miles from a McDonalds.

I’ve always figured that virtually always includes a gas station, parts store, etc.

http://www.datapointed.net/2009/09/distance-to-nearest-mcdon...


In many countries around the world you can buy a brand new 70 series Land Cruiser with a mechanical injection diesel fuel pump, crank windows, no screen, etc. No computer.

NGOs and UN buy them in the thousands for Africa and the Middle East.


A friend is doing exactly that with a defender 130 . New galvanized frame, every panel new, new axles, new brakes, new transmission, transfer case and engine. New seats, new interior, new doors. Cool project.

Canadian vehicles require this by law.

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