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Meh, so Google knows your wifi password. So what? You think US intelligence will be calling up Google for that? Those protocols were backdoored before the first design went on a whiteboard. And they know your ___location? So what? You’ve been able to triangulate any cell phone within meters from day 1. It’s just how the cell towers function, no getting around that. Terrorists, smart drug dealers and murderers already know to leave the phone behind. Google wants to sell you stuff you don’t need. It’s a business, that’s their goal.


Ok it was a bad screenshot, but horizon is amazing. I wonder how many of the critics actually put on a headset and tried it out


> I wonder how many of the critics actually put on a headset and tried it out

I guess one of the main problems is that Meta so far failed to create a compelling reason to try special-purpose hardware.


No that’s a very poor cop out. They shouldn’t criticize something they haven’t experienced, it’s a lack of integrity.


> They shouldn’t criticize something they haven’t experienced, it’s a lack of integrity.

"They" do not exist. You completely fabricated an hypothesis where you "wondered" how many people criticized Meta's horizon worlds in spite if never trying them out.

Your "very poor cop out" is the strawman you put together.


Went to a Best Buy recently. The VR goggles were firmly fastened to the counter. No way to try them on. That would be a good start.


How is Best Buy still in business?


Good question --- one that I discovered the answer to a few years ago.

They now price match with Amazon. Yes, you heard that right. If Best Buy has the product, you can pick it up right now for exactly the same price as what you can order it for on Amazon.

But if you think about it, Best Buy is actually cheaper for most people --- because you're not paying the "Prime" tax. The down side is there is no way for Best Buy to match the product variety available on Amazon.


What do you like about it?


And why is it better than VRChat?


It’s a social environment w chat and such, but you can build the world from inside, kind of like CAD for the environment you inhabit. It’s ‘down the rabbit hole’ amazing. I think the critics are totally wrong. Meta’s a golden bet.


Google Plus was great software too. That's not always enough.


Openship is wrong name.


Did she save lives? The soldiers she protected went on to kill more people.


Sure, they killed people. But there's a second order effect: They also probably prevented the soldiers of the other side from killing more people.


Ok so was her act of protection a net saving of life or simply a different form of violence?


That's probably very hard to say.

But consequentialism/utilitarianism [1] isn't the only form of moral reasoning. By most forms of deontological [2] morality, saving someone's life is a good act by itself, even if the fella goes on to become a murderer later.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism

[2]: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ethics-deontological/


The first one. If you are trying to prevent loss of life, that is admirable. Even if the people you save choose to commit violence later, that is on them; the responsibility is not on everyone who had previously helped or healed a (potentially) violent actor.


But you’re saving a soldier, in an active warzone. You can’t pretend to be naive and say maybe they’re going to have a change of heart and become a flower farmer. By saving that life, you’re executing the future victims of that killer/soldier. That you don’t actually pull the trigger on those victims is neither here nor there.


Of course she did. Just like the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki "saved lives".


why not plug the mac mini into a battery? remove the psu and get a 12v battery.

why would you want that though? you want it on in your bag as you’re traveling? If you can power a screen, then you can power the mm. It doesn’t make sense and the mm boot instantly now


I’m pretty concerned about a AI generating infectious memes and memeplexes/religions. It doesn’t take much to start a religious genocide. Look at Hong Xiuquan, the brother of jesus from China. 30 million dead. Synthetic religion could be so convincing it sucks us all into some delusion


And you know what another dangerous meme is? Humour. You can make offensive and degrading remarks about pretty much anything.

But no one wants to admit they are not infected with the humour meme.


Humor isn’t harmful. There were no genocides in the name of humor. It doesn’t destroy peoples lives. It doesn’t promote unhealthy behaviors, and doesn’t cripple peoples’ ability to understand the reality around them.


Nonsense. The preperation for the Holocaust was the "humourous" depictions of "the Jew".

You must be aware of examples from your own culture also.


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Stalin’s purges had nothing to do with atheism. According to your logic, building highways is genocidal, because Hitler built them too.


I'm referring to the religious purges that were undertaken because they wanted to destroy religious structure because it was backwards and not scientific like atheism. So, it kind of did have something to do with atheism.


And what did your precious little god do for those 12-20 million people?


Could you please stop posting flamewar comments and/or using HN for political/ideological battle? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


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Learn how the world works? That's how I know you're a kid.


Could you please stop breaking the site guidelines? Comments like you posted in this thread are not what HN is for, and destroy what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


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Could you please stop posting flamewar comments and/or using HN for political/ideological battle? Your account has unfortunately already been posting like that quite a bit, and we end up having to ban such accounts. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.


Update: Hey, after reading the rules, I don't believe I've written anything egregiously violating, except maybe push back on some opinions, which were themselves based in ideology. I don't flame without any reason, I just respond when I feel strongly that something that posted is wrong on some level. And I don't press anything either, just express an opposing point of view to some statement that obviously needs it. Thanks for the warning though, all the best!


We may be reading those rules pretty differently. Your GP comment seemed egregious to me.

Also, don't miss the point that we ban accounts that use HN primarily for political or ideological battle, even if they're not breaking the site guidelines in other ways (and regardless of which politics or ideology they're battling for). That's because it's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I don't know what "GP" is, but everything is ideological/political. If you expect me to comment nothing on a post like the one above, then you can ban me now


"GP" stands for 'grandparent' (at least I think it does) - so in this case by GP comment I meant https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32676920.

Yes, in a sense everything is ideological/political, but not in a sense that would make garden-variety snark the same as substantive, thoughtful comments—it's not. We want thoughtful comments here, not snark.

Whatever ideology you favor, I assume it's about something deeper and more important than internet putdowns, so HN's rules should be easy enough to adapt to.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Ok, sorry about that, I'll try to follow the rules. But what's the fun in message boards if you can't have some snark and spirit once in a while :)? I can take it, as well as give it, btw.


It's a-theist, not a-positive. It can be confusing.

One positive might be protection against meme religions? Hopefully?


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Religious flamewar (or any flamewar, but especially religious) is not welcome here, so please don't post like this to HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I bet you're a pip at parties.


Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That just makes everything worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


This may be the best book to read on the topic: Breaking the Spell by the philosopher Daniel C. Dennett. In short: religion is a meme (that has evolved over centuries). Crudely put, one can draw some parallels between religion "infecting" a human and a virus that makes an ant crawl to the top of a blade of grass (as the virus needs a sheep's stomach to reproduce).

https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Pheno...


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Presumably by "the west" you mean some parts of the Americas?


No, I mean all of west. Protection of children from religion is pretty much nonexistent.


^totally. There really needs to be action on this front. The problem has a massive scale and is more likely IMO to negatively affect a young persons experience than global warming, war, race and the phobias. Trouble is the human mind needs something to cling to. It simply wasn’t meant to challenge the mysteries of existence and the universe, and to accept death. So we fall into the delusion pit.


Three years to make a screwdriver. That says it all


No it doesnt. Have you ever developed any product?


Yea, I have. But look designing something often comes from the heart. You see a need and dream of filling it as a foothold for the next person in their experience. It’s a conquest, for others. But someone that designs a new screwdriver, with a trillion already made, is in a different place. You can extrapolate the world view from what people create, or aspire to.


Windows is a terrible OS. I don't even consider it an operating system, rather just malware that imitates macOS.


Which is a real shame, since MacOS has been imitating Unix since the beginning of time. And nowadays it doesn't even do that well, seeing how you can't run most containers without a second kernel running in a sidecar VM.

It's true what they say, there is no good operating system under the sun.


> Which is a real shame, since MacOS has been imitating Unix since the beginning of time.

Hmm? Mac OS being unix based is new. Just from 2001, with OS X.

And I wouldn't say it's imitating, it's just a BSD unix under the hood.

> seeing how you can't run most containers without a second kernel running in a sidecar VM

That's because they don't want to put the effort in to do a Mac OS specific solution though. Not because they couldn't.


There should be laws against these 'look at my clever wiz kid' articles. It's not that far off from beauty pageants and equally sick and pretentious. I remember just last week here in Berkeley seeing a young teenager playing Beethoven's 9th on an electric keyboard, perfectly. He was playing on the street and had all of $10 in change in his bowl. The look of misery on his face as his fingers effortlessly worked out the melody was astounding. He looked like a caged animal, living out his parent's dream in captivity. $50 says he blows his brains out by his thirties. This is abuse plain and simple.


Really? This kid clearly cares about the world and wanted to apply herself to a problem. There should be a law against rewarding such initiative with publicity? She's 17. When I was that age, I was completely bored to death by what I was "learning" in high school and I had one foot out the door.

With regards to that musical kid... I've got resting bitch face. When I'm focused on a difficult task, it's way worse; I call it "thinking murder face." I'm a musician, and if I'm playing a complex piece, I couldn't smile if I tried, even though I'm loving every second of what I'm doing.


Anytime there says “there aught to be a law…” there almost never should be.

That said, I agree the whiz kid articles are dumb, but not for the reasons you listed. More just “yea, let’s see how they do when they don’t have infinite time and zero responsibilities”.


You could move to a country that has Apple authorized service centers. Seriously. Or you could get over the scratch and continue living your life. If you believe in that sort of thing.


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