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How do I defend against 0day?
From: Jeffrey Czerniak <jeffcz () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:55:09 -0400
(Moved this conversation to dailydave per Dave's suggestion) Pardon my naivete... I am somewhere on the spectrum between "paid security professional" and "Symantec said zero infections, how did they get my bank password?" I'm one of those schmoes who reads security blogs, follows the NSA hardening guidelines, patches regularly, browses with Firefox/NoScript, but still realizes that there are 0day threats out there that could compromise my machine. On Twitter, Adam Shostack argued that in effect, I'm doing the right thing. (http://twitter.com/adamshostack/status/1527933467) Dave responded, no, 0day is rampant and I'm screwed. (http://twitter.com/daveaitel/status/1553055665) When I asked Dave what I should be doing to protect myself, he suggested I buy a copy of CANVAS, an Early Updates subscription, and take a class from Immunity. (http://twitter.com/daveaitel/status/1554813723) I have a couple of questions now. One, how do I put up a reasonable defense against 0day vulnerabilities? Two, how does purchasing a bunch of 0day from Immunity help me reach that goal? It seems like the purchase of CANVAS Early Updates would bring me from "I am certainly vulnerable to undefined 0day threats, and don't know how to protect myself" to "I now know about dozens of specific vulnerabilities in the software I use, and am scared shitless". Does CANVAS Early Updates come with a live dynamic binary patching system that protects me from the threats you've found? Otherwise, I don't know why I'd buy CANVAS since I'm not interested in hacking into other people's computers, and the non-disclosure agreement I'd have to sign would prevent me from disclosing those vulnerabilities to the vendors, thus I'm not really any safer. Let me ask this question from another perspective: let's say I won the lottery tomorrow and bought an Early Updates subscription. Certainly the IP I'd be buying access to is valuable to Immunity and you don't want it shared with vendors or your competition. What security precautions would you insist I take on the machine I stored that IP on? Thanks for reading this, Jeff geekable.com _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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