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Re: School project start: a fuzzer
From: nnp <version5 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:01:01 +0100
Are you building a fuzzer or a fuzzing framework? You should check out Peach to see what functionality it provides. It might be worth your while to extend the auxiliary functionality of Peach, to 'guided' fuzzing for example, rather than building a new framework. If you're doing it as a team and have 9 months, then building a fuzzer with a feedback loop is definitely do-able. If it were me, I'd probably build it on top of a dynamic binary analysis framework like Pin (http://www.pintool.org) or DynamoRIO (http://code.google.com/p/dynamorio/) both of which are probably fast enough to be used with a fuzzer as long as you don't have too much logic in your instrumentation code. DynamoRIO is entirely open source but Pin has better C++ support and a more active community of users. You might even consider feeding the information you harvest from the binary into a fitness function of a genetic algorithm (like Jared DeMott did with his evolutionary fuzzer) and using that to select the path/data to fuzz. A group of us have recently started a wiki aimed at gathering info on program analysis and verification (http://www.unprotectedhex.com/psv) that you might find useful. Some of the papers there contain some inspiration for ways to make a better fuzzer (esp. the paper on DART). nnp On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Martin Zember <martin.zember () matfyz cz> wrote:
Hi community, could you please give me some advice about a school project? It is an obligatory team project. We plan to create a fuzzer. I hope it makes sense to build another fuzzer, since different fuzzers find different bugs, right..? ;-) We have a lot of time (9 months, 5 people, 1day per week), but not more, so it is not a good ground for research. The project should be implemented, documented, finished, presented. The question is, how deep can we go (what to promise in the specification)? My guess is that detecting success during fuzzing only when application crashes is too lame. "Feedback fuzzing" is maybe too complicated. What is realistic? Even though it would be nice, we did not find a paid project, which is interesting enough. We are not obliged to do a fuzzer so other suggestions or warnings are welcome. Martin _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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- School project start: a fuzzer Martin Zember (May 08)
- Re: School project start: a fuzzer Jared DeMott (May 08)
- Re: School project start: a fuzzer Agustin Gianni (May 08)
- Re: School project start: a fuzzer Jon Oberheide (May 08)
- Re: School project start: a fuzzer Arun Koshy (May 08)
- Re: School project start: a fuzzer nnp (May 08)
- Re: School project start: a fuzzer Adrien Krunch Kunysz (May 08)