Debian Bug report logs - #1052193
c-munipack: depends on deprecated GTK 2

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Package: src:c-munipack; Maintainer for src:c-munipack is Debian Astronomy Team <[email protected]>;

Reported by: Bastian Germann <[email protected]>

Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:15:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version c-munipack/2.1.35-1

Blocking fix for 947713: libgtk2.0-0: is deprecated and entirely unmaintained upstream

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Report forwarded to [email protected], Debian Astronomy Team <[email protected]>:
Bug#1052193; Package src:c-munipack. (Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:15:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Bastian Germann <[email protected]>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Debian Astronomy Team <[email protected]>. (Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:15:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Bastian Germann <[email protected]>
To: submit <[email protected]>
Subject: c-munipack: depends on deprecated GTK 2
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 23:11:58 +0200
Source: c-munipack
Version: 2.1.35-1
User: [email protected]
Usertags: gtk2 oldlibs
Control: block 947713 by -1

(additional bug filing after the original MBF by smcv)

This package has Build-Depends on GTK 2 (libgtk2.0-dev), and produces
the binary package c-munipack with a Depends on GTK 2.
An easy way to get rid of it would be building with ENABLE_GUI=OFF.

GTK 2 was superseded by GTK 3 in 2011 (see
<https://bugs.debian.org/947713>). It no longer receives any significant
upstream maintenance, and in particular does not get feature development
for new features like UI scaling on high-pixel-density displays (HiDPI)
and native Wayland support. GTK 3 is in maintenance mode and GTK 4 is
approaching release, so it seems like a good time to be thinking about
minimizing the amount of GTK 2 in the archive.

GTK 2 is used by some important productivity applications like GIMP, and
has also historically been a popular UI toolkit for proprietary software
that we can't change, so perhaps removing GTK 2 from Debian will never be
feasible. However, it has reached the point where a dependency on it is
a bug - not a release-critical bug, and not a bug that can necessarily
be fixed quickly, but a piece of technical debt that maintainers should
be aware of.

A porting guide is provided in the GTK 3 documentation:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/migrating.html

Some libraries (for example libgtkspell0) expose GTK as part of their
API/ABI, in which case removing the deprecated dependency requires
breaking API/ABI. For these libraries, in many cases there will already
be a corresponding GTK 3 version (for example libgtkspell3-3-0), in which
case the GTK 2-based library should probably be deprecated or removed
itself. If there is no GTK 3 equivalent, of a GTK 2-based library,
maintainers should talk to the dependent library's upstream developers
about whether the dependent library should break API/ABI and switch
to GTK 3, or whether the dependent library should itself be deprecated
or removed.

A few packages extend GTK 2 by providing plugins (theme engines, input
methods, etc.) or themes, for example ibus and mate-themes. If these
packages deliberately support GTK 2 even though it is deprecated, and
they also support GTK 3, then it is appropriate to mark this mass-filed
bug as wontfix for now. I have tried to exclude these packages from
the mass-bug-filing, but I probably missed some of them.



Added indication that bug 1052193 blocks 947713 Request was from Bastian Germann <[email protected]> to [email protected]. (Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:15:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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