Subject: /usr/sbin is not mounted at boot! So don't expect that it is please
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:09:16 +0800
X-Debbugs-Cc: [email protected]
Package: alsa-utils
Version: 1.0.24.2-1
File: /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules
Gentlemen, you have blown it rather royally.
There are plenty of scripts in /lib/udev/rules.d that use RUN
$ cd /lib/udev/rules.d
$ grep RUN+= *|wc -l
123
And plenty that use /sbin
$ grep /sbin *|wc -l
26
But only one that uses /usr/sbin
$ grep /usr/sbin *|wc -l
1
And the winner is
$ grep /usr/sbin *
90-alsa-restore.rules: RUN+="/usr/sbin/alsactl restore $attr{number}"
Which of course will fail upon boot, with plenty of errors on the console,
because /usr/sbin/ is not mounted at that time!
P.S., there already is /etc/init.d/alsa-utils so the boot case is
covered anyway.
Anyway, whatever you do, be sure you stop causing all those error
messages at boot. Thank you.
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(Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:54:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: /usr/sbin is not mounted at boot!
So don't expect that it is please
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:51:33 +0200
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 09:09:16AM +0800, [email protected] wrote:
> Gentlemen, you have blown it rather royally.
jidanni, I look out of my window, and I don't see the world falling in
pieces. I just see a pair of annoying messages at boot. Don't worry, it'll
be fixed.
> There are plenty of scripts in /lib/udev/rules.d that use RUN
> $ cd /lib/udev/rules.d
> $ grep RUN+= *|wc -l
> 123
>
> And plenty that use /sbin
>
> $ grep /sbin *|wc -l
> 26
>
> But only one that uses /usr/sbin
>
> $ grep /usr/sbin *|wc -l
> 1
>
> And the winner is
>
> $ grep /usr/sbin *
> 90-alsa-restore.rules: RUN+="/usr/sbin/alsactl restore $attr{number}"
>
> Which of course will fail upon boot, with plenty of errors on the console,
>
> because /usr/sbin/ is not mounted at that time!
It seems clear that we need to move that binary to /sbin if we want to use
it like that in udev. Luckily, this was going to happen as we try to make
our delta with ubuntu smaller (they had done this change some time ago,
not sure if the reason was to avoid this or for other reasons derived from
upstart introduction).
Jordi
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(Sat, 20 Aug 2011 07:12:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
* [email protected] [110820 10:09 +0800]:
> You know THIS IS THE ONLY Package that is producing these horrible
> warning messages at boot for over a month now. You might not see them
> but we do.
Just a workaround: Don't reboot!
Elimar
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Spike the office water cooler;-)
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(Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:18:56 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
On Aug 03, Jordi Mallach <[email protected]> wrote:
> It seems clear that we need to move that binary to /sbin if we want to use
> it like that in udev.
And libasound as well.
But there is no need to, you can use a wrapper like
/lib/udev/alsa-utils.
--
ciao,
Marco
What is the recommended workaround: what file should we users alter to
turn off the boot warnings while we are waiting for this to get fixed?
Will altering that file cause interactive questions from dpkg next
upgrade? Thanks!
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(Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:27:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: interim workaround for users
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:24:20 +0200
tags 636437 pending
thanks
* [email protected] [110831 19:01 +0800]:
> What is the recommended workaround:
* Close your eyes the first ten seconds booting ;-)
* Install alsactl in /sbin and adjust rules, init, dirs and
udev.script before rebuilding the package. (See svn r2534)
Elimar
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>what IMHO then?
IMHO - Inhalation of a Multi-leafed Herbal Opiate ;)
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Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: interim workaround for users
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:31:01 +0800
>>>>> "ER" == Elimar Riesebieter <[email protected]> writes:
ER> * Install alsactl in /sbin and adjust rules, init, dirs and
ER> udev.script before rebuilding the package. (See svn r2534)
I am just the most basic Debian user, although I can use su(1).
Those instructions are for people who build packages.
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(Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:06:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Bug#636437: fixed in alsa-utils 1.0.24.2-2
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:02:53 +0000
Source: alsa-utils
Source-Version: 1.0.24.2-2
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
alsa-utils, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:
alsa-utils-udeb_1.0.24.2-2_amd64.udeb
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils-udeb_1.0.24.2-2_amd64.udeb
alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-2.debian.tar.bz2
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-2.debian.tar.bz2
alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-2.dsc
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-2.dsc
alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-2_amd64.deb
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-2_amd64.deb
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to [email protected],
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.
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Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:11:57 +0200
Source: alsa-utils
Binary: alsa-utils alsa-utils-udeb
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.0.24.2-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian ALSA Maintainers <[email protected]>
Changed-By: Jordi Mallach <[email protected]>
Description:
alsa-utils - Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
alsa-utils-udeb - Utilities for configuring and using ALSA (udeb) (udeb)
Closes: 636437638369
Changes:
alsa-utils (1.0.24.2-2) unstable; urgency=low
.
[ Jordi Mallach ]
* Add aplay_interactive.patch from Takashi Iwai to revert a behaviour
change in aplay which broke festival and possibly other scripts, while
retaining the new interactive functionality via a new -i option
(closes: #638369).
.
[ Elimar Riesebieter ]
* Don't install udev rules. It is not needed to run alsactl. Instead make
init depend on "mountall" to make sure /usr and /var is mounted for
running alsactl. (Closes: #636437)
* Added "build-arch: build ; build-indep: build" to rules to satisfy lintian.
* Install utils.sh executable
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(Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:06:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
reopen 636437
found 636437 1.0.24.2-2
thanks
Upgrading and then rebooting does not eliminate the warnings.
Bug No longer marked as fixed in versions alsa-utils/1.0.24.2-2 and reopened.
Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <[email protected]>
to [email protected].
(Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:24:10 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
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(Thu, 08 Sep 2011 00:24:09 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: not fixed
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 02:14:33 +0200
tags 636437 + unreproducible
thanks
* [email protected] [110908 07:16 +0800]:
> reopen 636437
> found 636437 1.0.24.2-2
> thanks
> Upgrading and then rebooting does not eliminate the warnings.
Hmm, do you find the warning in a log file? What ist exactly the
wording of the warning? I can't reproduce it?
Please post the output of
$ head -20 /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
Elimar
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important when you're guessing;-)
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: not fixed
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:10:10 +0800
>>>>> "ER" == Elimar Riesebieter <[email protected]> writes:
ER> Hmm, do you find the warning in a log file?
Impossible. The warnings occur before the filesystems are mounted, so
will only appear on the screen.
ER> What ist exactly the wording of the warning? I can't reproduce it?
The same as before.
ER> Please post the output of
ER> $ head -20 /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
#!/bin/sh
#
# alsa-utils initscript
#
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: alsa-utils
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs
# Required-Stop: $remote_fs
# Default-Start: S
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Restore and store ALSA driver settings
# Description: This script stores and restores mixer levels on
# shutdown and bootup.On sysv-rc systems: to
# disable storing of mixer levels on shutdown,
# remove /etc/rc[06].d/K50alsa-utils. To disable
# restoring of mixer levels on bootup, rename the
# "S50alsa-utils" symbolic link in /etc/rcS.d/ to
# "K50alsa-utils".
### END INIT INFO
# sysv-rc-conf --list |grep alsa
alsa-utils 0:off 6:off S:on
I even reinstalled the kernel and rebooted.
Be sure to test(1) the things you are assume are mounted... they may be
mounted now, but not when you called them.
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(Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:36:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
tags 636437 pending
thanks
@Jordi: Please upload again. Thanks
* [email protected] [110908 10:10 +0800]:
[...]
> # sysv-rc-conf --list |grep alsa
> alsa-utils 0:off 6:off S:on
>
> I even reinstalled the kernel and rebooted.
Why? This is not needed.
> Be sure to test(1) the things you are assume are mounted... they may be
> mounted now, but not when you called them.
Is it really a case of mismounting? /etc/init.d/alsa-utils is waiting
for $local_fs which, according to /etc/insserv.conf, provides
mountall. On the other hand mountall is provided by
rcS.d/S13mountall.sh. alsa-utils started as rcS.d/S26alsa-utils. As
you can recognize S26 is a bit later as S13. So all should be run
satisfyingly now.
Well the problem was that alsa-utils/alsactl installs
/lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules which is not driven by the
debian/rules but a default install from alsa's source package. See
alsa-utils/alsactl/Makkefile.in. So we removed that file from
package and delete an probably existing one by postrm.
Sorry Jidanni for my incompetence. It will never happens in future
again.
But could you please explain how /usr/bin/test, as suggested by
test(1) from you, can prevent one from such a mistake? Any help would
extend my experience ;-)
One thing Jirdanni; could you please a bit more friendly in the
future. This will push the motivation of maintainers much more
emphaticly ;-)
Elimar
--
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the government we pay for.
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: not fixed
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:01:18 +0800
>>>>> "ER" == Elimar Riesebieter <[email protected]> writes:
>> I even reinstalled the kernel and rebooted.
ER> Why? This is not needed.
I thought it might be an "initrd" thing or something. Just shows how
much I know.
ER> But could you please explain how /usr/bin/test, as suggested by
ER> test(1) from you, can prevent one from such a mistake? Any help would
ER> extend my experience ;-)
All I know is these days one never seems to know what is mounted when anymore.*
ER> One thing Jirdanni; could you please a bit more friendly in the
ER> future. This will push the motivation of maintainers much more
ER> emphaticly ;-)
No! I have had a permanent overdose of Don Rickles movies and am
perfecting my nastiness just one notch below getting banned.
*By the way, even pleading to Linus will not get boot warnings logged
anywhere. No disks mounted yet... You'll just have to attach a DEC printing terminal.
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On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:01:18AM +0800, [email protected] wrote:
> No! I have had a permanent overdose of Don Rickles movies and am
> perfecting my nastiness just one notch below getting banned.
LOL!
> *By the way, even pleading to Linus will not get boot warnings logged
> anywhere. No disks mounted yet... You'll just have to attach a DEC
> printing terminal.
/etc/default/bootlogd does not help in your system?
Jordi
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(Fri, 09 Sep 2011 07:36:09 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 02:33:53AM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> Well the problem was that alsa-utils/alsactl installs
> /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules which is not driven by the
> debian/rules but a default install from alsa's source package. See
> alsa-utils/alsactl/Makkefile.in. So we removed that file from
> package and delete an probably existing one by postrm.
Wow, I wonder how we missed that. Elimar, why do we do this?
# Remove udev configfile
rm -f /lib/udev/rules.d/80-alsa.rules
rm -f /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules
These are not conffiles; they are not in /etc, and should go away as any
other normal file in a package just with a simple package upgrade.
Jordi
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Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: not fixed
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:46:00 +0800
JM> /etc/default/bootlogd does not help in your system?
Typical. You have no idea of what I am talking about.
$ cat /etc/default/bootlogd
# Run bootlogd at startup ?
#BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No
#jidanni:
BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
I'm taking about the earliest messages one sees on ones screen, before
any of that gets turned on.
Linux can spew them to the screen, but not also copy them to memory and
then later save to a file.
So one needs a pencil and paper.
E.g., for the messages mentioned in this bug.
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(Fri, 09 Sep 2011 08:39:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: Bug#636437: not fixed
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 10:37:00 +0200
* Jordi Mallach [110909 09:33 +0200]:
> On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 02:33:53AM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > Well the problem was that alsa-utils/alsactl installs
> > /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules which is not driven by the
> > debian/rules but a default install from alsa's source package. See
> > alsa-utils/alsactl/Makkefile.in. So we removed that file from
> > package and delete an probably existing one by postrm.
>
> Wow, I wonder how we missed that. Elimar, why do we do this?
>
> # Remove udev configfile
> rm -f /lib/udev/rules.d/80-alsa.rules
> rm -f /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules
>
> These are not conffiles; they are not in /etc, and should go away as any
> other normal file in a package just with a simple package upgrade.
Description suited. Ready for upload. We should do it like the M$
developers. Let a key tester like Jidanni confirm that this bug is
really closed now.
Elimar
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the government we pay for.
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(Fri, 09 Sep 2011 08:45:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
* [email protected] [110909 15:46 +0800]:
> JM> /etc/default/bootlogd does not help in your system?
> Typical. You have no idea of what I am talking about.
> $ cat /etc/default/bootlogd
> # Run bootlogd at startup ?
> #BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No
> #jidanni:
> BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
>
> I'm taking about the earliest messages one sees on ones screen, before
> any of that gets turned on.
>
> Linux can spew them to the screen, but not also copy them to memory and
> then later save to a file.
>
> So one needs a pencil and paper.
Hmm, stop the stdout, make a photo and send this (well, sized reduced
please) to us. You are absolutely right. This boot sequence cant't be
written to a logfile of the booting system.
I've noticed now, that you are a real BOFH ;-)
Elimar
--
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be a means to conceal oneself."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: Bug#636437: not fixed
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:46:04 +0800
ER> Take a photograph
See, told ya.
ER> Description suited. Ready for upload. We should do it like the M$
ER> developers. Let a key tester like Jidanni confirm that this bug is
ER> really closed now.
You'll be hearing from me again if the messages don't go away soon.
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(Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:24:24 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Bug#636437: fixed in alsa-utils 1.0.24.2-3
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:47:12 +0000
Source: alsa-utils
Source-Version: 1.0.24.2-3
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
alsa-utils, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:
alsa-utils-udeb_1.0.24.2-3_amd64.udeb
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils-udeb_1.0.24.2-3_amd64.udeb
alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-3.debian.tar.bz2
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-3.debian.tar.bz2
alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-3.dsc
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-3.dsc
alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-3_amd64.deb
to main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.24.2-3_amd64.deb
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to [email protected],
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.
Debian distribution maintenance software
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Version: 1.0.24.2-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian ALSA Maintainers <[email protected]>
Changed-By: Jordi Mallach <[email protected]>
Description:
alsa-utils - Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
alsa-utils-udeb - Utilities for configuring and using ALSA (udeb) (udeb)
Closes: 636437
Changes:
alsa-utils (1.0.24.2-3) unstable; urgency=low
.
[ Elimar Riesebieter ]
* Remove alsactl's native installed udev rule. Hopefully closes: #636437
really now.
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to Jordi Mallach <[email protected]>:
You have taken responsibility.
(Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:51:21 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
found 636437 1.0.27-2
thanks
OK the bug is suddenly back.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
APT prefers experimental
APT policy: (990, 'experimental'), (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 3.8-1-486
Locale: LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Versions of packages alsa-utils depends on:
ii dialog 1.1-20120215-3
ii kmod 9-3
ii libasound2 1.0.27-3
ii libc6 2.17-1
ii libncursesw5 5.9+20130119-1
ii libsamplerate0 0.1.8-5
ii libtinfo5 5.9+20130119-1
ii lsb-base 4.1+Debian9
ii whiptail 0.52.14-11.1
Versions of packages alsa-utils recommends:
ii alsa-base 1.0.25+3
alsa-utils suggests no packages.
-- no debconf information
Acknowledgement sent
to Elimar Riesebieter <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian ALSA Maintainers <[email protected]>.
(Tue, 28 May 2013 21:27:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#636437: seeing those warnings at boot once
more
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 23:25:35 +0200
tags 636437 fixed-upstream
thx
* [email protected] <[email protected]> [2013-05-12 08:31 +0800]:
> found 636437 1.0.27-2
> thanks
> OK the bug is suddenly back.
Elimar
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