Debian Bug report logs - #831024
'install a graphical package manager with cd 1'

Package: debian-installer; Maintainer for debian-installer is Debian Install System Team <[email protected]>; Source for debian-installer is src:debian-installer (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: Pirate Praveen <[email protected]>

Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:09:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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Bug#830951; Package debian-installer. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 07:09:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Pirate Praveen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Support usb dongles via usb-modeswitch and network-manager during installation
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:38:03 +0530
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package: debian-installer
Severity: wishlist

I installed a desktop system using jessie 8.5 cd 1 image. Even though desktop was selected, I was booted into a text terminal because I could not use my usb dongle during installation. After the system is installed, I still could not use the dongle. After connecting my android phone and usb tethering, I could install usb-modeswitch and use internet.

I think graphical system with synaptic should be installed on CD 1. I understand the whole gnome can't fit into a CD, but it should be in a position to be able to install more software.

Can we install gdm3 and synaptic on CD1?
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Information forwarded to [email protected], Debian Install System Team <[email protected]>:
Bug#830951; Package debian-installer. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:12:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian Install System Team <[email protected]>. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:12:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #10 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Holger Wansing <[email protected]>
To: Pirate Praveen <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#830951: Support usb dongles via usb-modeswitch and network-manager during installation
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:09:30 +0200
Hi,

Pirate Praveen <[email protected]> wrote:
> package: debian-installer
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> I installed a desktop system using jessie 8.5 cd 1 image. Even though desktop was selected, I was booted into a text terminal because I could not use my usb dongle during installation. After the system is installed, I still could not use the dongle. After connecting my android phone and usb tethering, I could install usb-modeswitch and use internet.
> 
> I think graphical system with synaptic should be installed on CD 1. I understand the whole gnome can't fit into a CD, but it should be in a position to be able to install more software.
> 
> Can we install gdm3 and synaptic on CD1?

With a CD1 install without network, you probably don't get an GUI system.
This is a known problem, see
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/


Holger

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Information forwarded to [email protected], Debian Install System Team <[email protected]>:
Bug#830951; Package debian-installer. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:57:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Pirate Praveen <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian Install System Team <[email protected]>. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:57:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #15 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pirate Praveen <[email protected]>
To: Holger Wansing <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#830951: Support usb dongles via usb-modeswitch and network-manager during installation
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:25:46 +0530
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On Wednesday 13 July 2016 06:39 PM, Holger Wansing wrote:
> With a CD1 install without network, you probably don't get an GUI system.
> This is a known problem, see
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/

I understand the limitation, but thinks the solution can be better than
what we have currently. gdm3, gnome-session and synaptic will be a
better default (as gnome-desktop-enviroment is bigger than can be bit
into a CD) than a system without a gui. This allows a user to install
required packages from the network.


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Information forwarded to [email protected], Debian Install System Team <[email protected]>:
Bug#830951; Package debian-installer. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 18:03:08 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <[email protected]>:
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Message #20 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <[email protected]>
To: Pirate Praveen <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#830951: Support usb dongles via usb-modeswitch and network-manager during installation
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:00:30 +0200
Le mercredi, 13 juillet 2016, 12.38:03 h CEST Pirate Praveen a écrit :
> I installed a desktop system using jessie 8.5 cd 1 image. Even though
> desktop was selected, I was booted into a text terminal because I could not
> use my usb dongle during installation. After the system is installed, I
> still could not use the dongle. After connecting my android phone and usb
> tethering, I could install usb-modeswitch and use internet.

d-i _could_ make use of usb-modeswitch{,-data} without too much hassle, but 
that would just make the GSM modems appear. Then there's modemmanager as 
interface for it, and 3gpp is also needed. This makes for a lot of packages 
needed to be installed to get a network connection *during d-i*.

> I think graphical system with synaptic should be installed on CD 1.( …)
> 
> Can we install gdm3 and synaptic on CD1?

You are mixing two entirely unrelated questions here:

* d-i context. It currently has (somewhat limited) WiFi support; we could 
discuss mobile broadband support (and this is the subject of your bugreport)
* what is installed by CD-1; you are arguing that usb-modeswitch{,-data} 
should be.

I can agree two both wishlist ideas, but they are unrelated.

-- 
Cheers,
    OdyX



Bug 830951 cloned as bug 831024 Request was from Pirate Praveen <[email protected]> to [email protected]. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:03:15 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Changed Bug title to ''install a graphical package manager with cd 1'' from 'Support usb dongles via usb-modeswitch and network-manager during installation'. Request was from Pirate Praveen <[email protected]> to [email protected]. (Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:03:16 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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