> This observation fits together with studies that show the best way of maintaining mental harmony during mind-wandering is to be able to be aware of the fact that you are doing it
Given that being aware of something is the primary intent of mindfulness, I'd say this article's author is misrepresenting what "mindfulness" actually means by using it to define something which is only orthogonally related. Technically speaking, anti-mindfulness would be defined as the intentional practice of not observing one's thought or being aware of them. The quote above seems to indicate one is aware of the process.
I live in the Bay and I have not personally observed a group or movement with the primary intent of going around trying to not be aware of what they are thinking or doing. That happens naturally enough in people with their noses in phones on the sidewalk!
I didn't fully grasp the irony until you quoted it. There is a name for the state of mental harmony, when you're aware of your mind's wandering: "Mindfulness".
Mindfulness is thus a prerequisite to wandering, and being anti mindful or revolting against mindfulness... (Who would actually do or say that?) is therefore anti wandering as well. QED.
While he's misusing the word there's still value in the things that he's reporting.
What the article talks about is how there is a benefit both from focused thought, and involuntary thought. There has a growing trend towards trying to avoid 'wasteful' thought and on focusing attention on task, but that there's evidence and a counter trend showing that letting your mind do things without conscious direction is also beneficial.
I think it's definitely ironic that he's using the term mindfulness in the way that he does, but it's just a word. The concept that he's explaining is something that people who have actually practiced mindfulness have already learned.
Despite the fact that he's using the wrong words, I think it's a net gain for people to become more aware and comfortable with the things that our minds and bodies do without a conscious directive, and to learn to trust that they have value.
I've been kicking around the idea that "living a thousand lifetimes" is a highly inefficient computational process with little positive outcome. These wasteful thoughts are usually based on assumptions and the practice of speaking for other's intent and feelings.
I'm a big fan of day dreaming, and set apart time in my day for it. I guess mind-wandering is the new term.
But I think the article is protecting the very stressful cycle of thinking about the same things over and over and over without being able to let go. The old
"I should go to grocery store to get food" leading to "I should cook more at home" to "That one time I tried to make tikka masala it came out bad" back to "I should go to the store"
cycle.
I'm all for the embracing of day-dreaming, but that comes from mindfulness. A calm, clear place where thoughts are free to bubble up as freely as they are able to go.
Mindfulness meditation practice is, for me, the gym. It helps me put my mind to that place, to focus and put 100% into whatever I'm doing, whether that's chopping carrots, programming, or day-dreaming.
Yes, when I used to meditate (and I'd like to get back into it), I'd split my sessions into two modes. One where I just let my thoughts go where they wanted, and one where I attempted to focus on my breathing.
Thankfully I have no trouble with wandering attention when dealing with a difficult task at work (although, upon success I am generally thoroughly drained. Attempting to jump into my next task can be quite a tough hurdle after spending a few hours in the zone intently focused on one particular nuance of a system.) and I produce plenty of wonderful thoughts when I'm doing menial things like dishes or riding the train without a book.
In the end, like most things, there's a bit of balance to it all.
Are you familiar with any specific meditation traditions? Most historical traditions split practice into those two categories--concentration meditation, which is one pointed and object focused, and 'bare awareness', which allows the mind to wander as it pleases, without judgment, while observing what that is like.
Just pretty neat if you came up with those both on your own.
Oh no, while my meditations aren't based on anything specific that I can currently remember, those were more than certainly both read about at some point and as a firm believer in the value of balance I never chose either or.
At the root of this turnaround: the idea that mind-wandering is not a waste of attention but simply a different kind of focus.
Could this be the beginning of the revolt against mindfulness?
I think the article (and probably a lot of modern mindfulness courses/books) conflates mindfulness and concentration meditation. One of the basic principles of mindfulness meditation is equanimity. In terms of 'mental objects' this means being non-judgmental towards thoughts, emotions, etc. Wandering is just one of the many things that occur and when one notices wandering, one can just observe that. If the wandering continues, it continues. If the wandering stops, it stops.
Focus can be a side-effect of mindfulness meditation, but is not the goal.
I was having trouble articulating my thoughts on this article but I think you nailed it.
I don't think mindfulness and mind-wandering are inconsistent with one another. In fact as you pointed out, a key tenet of mindfulness is occasionally allowing our thoughts to wander, but knowing what is happening, and naming said thoughts.
In fact, mind-wandering paired with mindfulness can be very powerful. We can allow our subconscious to come out of the shadows, all the while noticing where it is going. The two don't have to be separated, they can go hand-in-hand.
The dichotomy in the title is false. As the article states:
"This observation fits together with studies that show the best way of maintaining mental harmony during mind-wandering is to be able to be aware of the fact that you are doing it."
Which means, precisely, that it's a state of mindful watching a stream of thoughts, without exerting any pressure or expectations of the result.
With mindfulness you can do everything better, including thinking - the fact that you are aware of it doesn't mean that you overly control or restrain it. You can let the thoughts flow freely when it's useful, you can stop them (with some practice) when it starts to be counter-productive.
Really the culture they are tilting against is the go-getter "productivity" culture that puts everything into two buckets: productive, and not-productive. Everything that can be directly measured is productive, while other things are recreational at best. That's according to this 'productivity' culture anyway.
Thanks, makes sense. It reminds me a story about some companies blindly following Google in introducing mindfulness courses to its employees, in hope of increased productivity.
The interesting offshoot was that some of them, having started meditating, realized that the job is crap and they quit the company.
Great article. I can confirm I often come up with the new ideas in the shower.
In general I taught myself to alternate periods of deep concentration work with periods of "pause" where I stop writing code and let my mind "wander" in relaxing activities. I recommend taking a step back when faced with a difficult problem to solve.
Usually when I come back to work I take the initial problem with a more creative approach.
Are we rediscovering the wheel all over again? Millions of people can confirm this. I also have ideas in the shower, when mindwandering. And also I have greate ideas when cycling home from work. At work I focus a lot, this allows me to push work and do a lot of things. But creativity comes in bursts, often outside the office, while cycling, walking, showering, eating ... but this is old. All this "new trends", are the same old things with new names. I'm sure the greeks had discovered most of this millennia ago.
I think this stems from the fact that other people's experiences are usually not enough to internalise something. You can tell me about it for hours, but unless I have a creative thought in the shower myself, I wont really know it to be true. Once I experience it for myself it'll feel like a genuine discovery even if other people have been doing it for millenia.
You're right. Each generation, each individual, in fact, must rediscover the wheel.
The problem is that our world (science, media, etc.) is heavily biased towards novelty. Somehow, it is compulsory to explain everything as if it was a new discovery, a breakthrough, when it is older than walking (as we use to say in the Catalan language).
I'm tired of reading article, after article, about new old things. People using a brain scanner to "discover" thinks we all know well.
Maybe I should read just read old books and forget the media.
I am suspicious of an unintended end result with all the Mindfullness rhetoric being published. I have three friends very, very into it, and one of them ain't that bright. Their experience, as they relate them to me, is more like a fear of ones own thought processes and they appear to be developing thought phobias. I tell this person that they are misunderstanding something, because it should not be triggering stress, but there it is, stressing them out that they "think wrong". Anything that makes a person fear their own thought process is really, really fucked up.
It's not the mindfulness itself, but they definitely get it wrong. Your advice to them is really great and it could be taken as the most universal meditation advice ever: "If it's stressful, you're doing it wrong".
As the Buddha said, "there's no such thing as noble suffering".
Mindfulness is definitely not meant to suppress thought or even certain types of thought. At its core it is non-judgmental observation of arising mental phenomena. That means thought, emotion, perception (e.g. touch), and even consciousness as observables, without any type of internal labeling ('that's a bad thought, that's a bad emotion, etc.').
It's possible for people to fall into this, where they exclusively focus on concentration meditation (like the breath) that leads to a kind of narrow-mindedness. It's also difficult because there are just so many books out there for people to read, that it's tough to know exactly what people are reading and suggesting to others, and some of the new-agey type literature ('think positive!') can possibly be harmful.
There are many reputable sources (historically and currently) that can say that the purpose is NOT to suppress your thoughts, even though this can be a common misconception about meditation practice.
I do worry I 'think wrong' sometimes when I don't concentrate as much as I'd like or I don't meditate as often as I like, but honestly one thing that keeps me from doing it that often is that I actually really enjoy my mind bouncing around from thought to thought as I drift off into sleep.
I'm a creative person, and I've gotten some really great ideas for projects or solved some things at work by just letting my mind bounce around from idea to idea, so I'm hesitant to replace that with a still mind. Although every once in awhile I need to relax or calm down and meditation helps with that.
I have been exposed to different forms of meditation, and I personally prefer the Transcendental Meditation form. Under TM, one repeats a nonsense phrase while in a quiet place with one's eyes closed. After a bit, a self hypnosis occurs, and one's mind takes a little acid trip. Afterwards, about 15 to 20 minutes, I feel like a just woke from a refreshing nap and I have great clarity of mind.
Comparing this to Mindfulness, which I am not completely understanding, seems like a completely different type of meditation that takes one's presence (what you're supposed to be doing) into the mediation, whereas TM is like a 20 minute vacation from what you're supposed to be doing.
It sounds like your friend is identifying that thought as being inseparable from him/herself. I think one of the strengths of mindfulness is to slowly come to the realization that your thoughts are not you. They are just thoughts. We humans are designed to secrete thoughts thousands of times per day. Some are weird and scary, some are beautiful, but none of them have to identify 'us'.
Part of any sane meditation practice is open minded curiosity toward our own thoughts rather than rejection or outright suppression. An unpleasant thought should be acknowledged, labeled, and set aside while meditating.
Mindfulness is backed by thousands of years of evidence-based practice and millions of deliberate practitioners; this mind-wandering "movement" has, as far I can tell, a couple of web articles written about it and very few people intentionally practicing it.
> ... this mind-wandering "movement" has, as far I can tell, a couple of web articles written about it and very few people intentionally practicing it.
Every scientific theory, every invention throughout history, resulted from people "mind-wandering", imagining a reality other than the one in front of them. Mindfulness is not the only legitimate mental activity, in fact it's a fad with a name and some slogans surrounding one of many equally legitimate mental states. There's nothing wrong with it, unless people start thinking of it as the only legitimate mental activity, a human failing with a long sad history.
"Mind-wandering" is meditation. The way it is presented in this article is as a type of meditation that you do throughout the day, whenever nothing forced your attention to the present.
And like all meditation, it is, in fact, enabled by mindfulness, and has its own prehistoric origins.
I like this article, mind wandering as a concept resonates with me in the sense that I believe it is important and good to spend time exploring thoughts and ideas without any external pressures, especially time.
But my gut reaction is it's sad that mindfulness is being demoted in order to promote wandering. It makes a good story, I guess, to have an antagonist, but in my mind there is no conflict whatsoever between mindfulness and "mind wandering". The insistence in this article that there is a conflict gives me the impression that the author doesn't truly understand the practice of mindfulness.
> You know how it goes: one moment you're reading or driving, the next you're off in a daze, thinking about what you should have for lunch, or running through to-do lists in your head.
There must be a word for this moment, when the primary focus of attention shifts from the near physical environment to thoughts that are "mentally near". I certainly know the subjective experience of what is being described, but I lack the words to express it. It superficially resembles a context switch.
I made a gigantic leap in interpersonal skill and ability to make eye contact when I started noticing that kind of mental motion, and started using it as a cue to look at the person I'm talking to.
I need the opposite. A way to tell my mind to shut up. Always overthinking. It's a consonant buzz which makes it hard to go to sleep. Coffee helps to make things more focused but it doesn't make it quieter.
Meditation, including mindfulness meditation, is such a thing. After a couple of days on a silent mindfulness retreat of constantly watching your mind (watching doesn't mean 'thinking') there's a moment when the thinking stops. It's scary at first, because it's such unusual for us, but with time, when you learn how to trigger it at will, you start to appreciate this amazing relief that comes with it. And by the way, your cognitive functions do not weaken - on the contrary, the mind becomes more efficient.
I couldn't put it better, you very rightly associate the constant mind chatter with stress - that's one of the main causes.
Essentially you're asking for the same thing. If you're constantly overthinking it's become involuntary.
Part of that cycle comes from stress hormones. One of the easiest ways we can motivate ourselves is to increase stress, we do that easily because one of the easy things for our conscious mind is to imagine or remember things, and if we imagine things that make us nervous, we can trigger a release of stress hormones which agitate us and push us to avoid some negative consequence.
For instance, if you have a paper to write, and you lack motivation to do it, you can imagine the result of not doing it, and that will make you anxious, and that anxiety will prompt you to seek out a way to avoid that uncomfortable feeling, which might be writing the paper to get it out of the way, or it might be flipping on the TV so you can crowd out your imagined fear of failure, and console yourself with the promise that you'll get it done later just fine if you rest.
Coffee helps you focus because it lets the stress hormones in your brain persist for longer, but it actually causes other problems. Stress-based motivation causes you to seek relief, sometimes that relief comes from tackling a problem head-on, sometimes that relief comes from avoiding the problem.
Avoiding the problem can lead to more stress (It's a lot more stressful to have a paper that you think you'll do terrible on due tomorrow than it is to have a paper you think you'll do terrible on in a week) but the thing about stress-based motivation is you have less conscious decision about what to do about it. It pushes you, you don't push it. You just help to control the amplitude.
Coffee helps maintain those stress hormones active in your brain, and that stress generally keeps you from sleeping, that's one of it's direct roles, as well as it keeps you worrying which is kind of a positive feedback loop.
First of all, this isn't necessarily a bad thing that needs to change. This is just a thing. But it's good to know how to change it. The first thing you would do is drop the Coffee altogether. Coffee's going to amplify this effect, and it's going to keep you awake at night. Proper sleep will help you relieve stress, and it will help you recover some of the more pleasant feeling interest-based motivation.
The next helpful thing would be to start doing some kind of mindfulness training. I like zazen, particularly just sitting. Essentially sitting in a calm place, and letting thoughts come to your mind, but not acknowledging them, more like watching them come and go. If you find yourself thinking about one of those thoughts, that's OK, start watching THAT thought come and go. The same with sensations or anything else. If you feel tired, you feel tired. If you feel hungry, you feel hungry.
If you do this for 15 minutes, it can feel like a very long time, and you will walk away a bit more objective. I like to conclude with a bit more mindfulness where I sort of take stock of my self. I focus on feeling everything across my body in discrete steps, each finger, my palm, my wrist, my forearm, my elbow, etc. Do I feel pain? Do I feel hungry? Do I feel tired? Then I end this step by thinking about what I might need to do to change these things, if I make myself more comfortable, or eat, or rest, will these things be less distracting?
You might find that you are doing too many things, and that's where this stress is coming from. You can go a for a long while with 10 things to do every day and no means to complete more than 8 of them. This is easy to do if you don't ever count them and get by through telling yourself that you can do all 10 if you just put your mind to it, and get frustrated when you fail.
But in slowing down, you might realize that everyone does this, and that while you can do 8 things better by putting 8 things on your plate rather than do 8 things poorly by putting 10 things on your plate, there's a cultural expectation that you have 10 things on your plate and be exasperated about it, and it's easy to fall into a trap where you're now getting stress from the knowledge that you would really like to have to do 8 things, but you need to do 10, added to the rest of the other stressful feelings you get from having to try to do 10.
Similarly everyone's mind is different, and we all learn to adapt to a different mental landscape. Some people, like people with ADHD, have minds built such that they blow through all of their interest-based focus very quickly. Then their mind wanders easily, and they might turn to stress-based motivation to get through the rest of the day. If you are like this you might be able to avoid the overthinking and the self-medication with coffee, but realize that you need to have a 3 hour work-day in order to not fall into that pattern, which is unreasonable. Or you might be prescribed medication which has it's own sets of upsides and downsides.
My only answer is, you can't really tell your mind to shut up. You're not really the boss of your mind, your conscious thought is just a part of your mind. You can learn about what's going on inside your mind, and you can even put yourself into a situation where you mind can become quiet. But you can't strongarm your whole mind into acting precisely the way your consciousness wants it to act indefinitely. It's much better to just learn how different parts of your mind work, and work to support them. Stress can be great, it's entirely necessary, it's not something you want to cut out of your brain. But it's suited to dealing with crises, and if you can arrange your circumstance so that you aren't using stress to be the motivation through your every day, you might be better off.
> Mind-wandering: the rise of a new anti-mindfulness movement
This is absurd. Contrary to the efforts of ideologues, Mindfulness isn't a movement, it's an idea, and there are other equally valid ideas, like creative daydreaming. There's no actual conflict between choosing to pay attention to one's surroundings, and paying attention to one's inner creative voices -- they're complementary, non-conflicting states.
Only in the field of human psychology can an obviously legitimate mental state be described as an "anti-mindfulness movement", except for people whose minds have a maximum capacity of one trivial idea.
Given that being aware of something is the primary intent of mindfulness, I'd say this article's author is misrepresenting what "mindfulness" actually means by using it to define something which is only orthogonally related. Technically speaking, anti-mindfulness would be defined as the intentional practice of not observing one's thought or being aware of them. The quote above seems to indicate one is aware of the process.
I live in the Bay and I have not personally observed a group or movement with the primary intent of going around trying to not be aware of what they are thinking or doing. That happens naturally enough in people with their noses in phones on the sidewalk!