> Basically, it boils down to token counts and the presence of implicit associativity and precedence rules.
That's... a really arbitrary and contrived presumption. Not to mention presuppositional (and circular) in nature. "I define what makes a language beautiful as what Lisp is best at, therefore lisp is most beautiful."
It's things like this which cause Lisp evangelists to not get taken seriously.
Based on your comparison anyhow Python is much better with it's Tuples (ie - a, b, c = 1, 2, 3) and lisp would be fundamentally worse.
I see; so when you say things like 'Lisp is many things, syntactically elegant isn't one of them' you are taken seriously, whereas if I say the opposite I am not; and it's because I have tried to reflect over my biases, and quantify them in some sort of objectively evaluable terms.
That's... a really arbitrary and contrived presumption. Not to mention presuppositional (and circular) in nature. "I define what makes a language beautiful as what Lisp is best at, therefore lisp is most beautiful."
It's things like this which cause Lisp evangelists to not get taken seriously.
Based on your comparison anyhow Python is much better with it's Tuples (ie - a, b, c = 1, 2, 3) and lisp would be fundamentally worse.