Not only that, PUA tactics often involve just plain making shit up - which makes it a really, really poor tactic if you ever plan on seeing the girl again.
I'm not so hot on OP's tone, but for people looking for relationships it seems a lot more productive than the "lying through your teeth while maintaining a veneer of confidence" that so much of the PUA community relies upon.
There have been numerous posts about dating on HN (and reddit) over the past few days. I think all of it can be summed up as: "care, but don't care too much". All of the advice on OP's post can really be broken down to that axiom.
I think dependence on lying was more true few years ago. Since The Game came out, a lot has changed. Most popular methods rely a lot less on lying and routines and will readily admit they are crutches that you use until you no longer need it.
which makes it a really, really poor tactic if you ever plan on seeing the girl again.
Donno, I have multiple friends who have been/are in happy long-term relationships as a result of the community. These are some of the biggest nerds until they found the community.
Sure, for a while a lot of the new entrants become super weird and awkward but when the dust settles, I think the community has helped many, many people!
Having said that, in the last few years, there has been an influx of gurus claiming to know the secret. They are nothing more than snakeoil artists who don't know shit about getting with the other sex beyond ripping off desperate--but financially okay--men.
That's a very convenient thing to say, but the phrase "too much" is really a compacted way of saying "are much as the situation would call for in order to be successful, and no more," at which point you really have a circular definition. How do you succeed? Do what you need to to succeed.
In other words, if you want to do the right thing, you should do what is good and not what is bad. Also, we should elect the best representatives if we want our democracy to succeed. And here's some good dietary advice: everything in moderation, don't eat too much of anything.
I'm not so hot on OP's tone, but for people looking for relationships it seems a lot more productive than the "lying through your teeth while maintaining a veneer of confidence" that so much of the PUA community relies upon.
There have been numerous posts about dating on HN (and reddit) over the past few days. I think all of it can be summed up as: "care, but don't care too much". All of the advice on OP's post can really be broken down to that axiom.