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> I want to visit an America where I can't understand what they're saying even though it's allegedly English, where you need to work at it, absorb the local dialect.

It may be more interesting to visit such an America, but it would be a lot harder to democratically govern such an America.




I dunno, I kind of get the feeling indonesian democracy is in a healthier state than american democracy.


then your feelings are mis-calibrated. They only have had free elections for 20 years! Aceh is practically a theocracy. Political violence is common. They just jailed under blasphemy laws the loser of of the governor's election in Jakarta.

but don't take my word for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

US - at an embarrassing, miserable 21st place scoring 7.98.

Indonesia - 68th.


I bet it would be a different story if you took the direction of movement of the score.

Honestly I was thinking about the presidential politics rather than regional. Indonesia is a large and diverse country. Similar population to the USA and arguably more diverse.


Based on what?


Based on what I know about Indonesian politics and American politics. I grew up in Indonesia for a while during the Soeharto regime, and have maintained an interest since.


Hell, we can barely democratically govern Louisiana. Not for nothing did A.J. Liebling dub it Lebanon.


> Hell, we can barely democratically govern Louisiana.

No disagreement from me on that. Inclusion of Louisiana, Alabama, etc., in the republic is a real challenge.




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