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Yep, they have it covered already.

I lived in Northern Virginia for 8 years.

It's got a mediocre quality of life compared to other tech centers, extremely high cost of living, horrific traffic, and has a talent pool that is inflated on paper due to the misaligned incentives of the Federal government workforce (Federal government workers are promoted and hired based on arbitrary checkmarks like Masters degree: yes/no, etc) which cause people to pursue worthless graduate degrees for pay bumps. This is why there are so many diploma mill type schools with campuses there. Add in the incredible over-staffing of Federal projects (both gov't and contractor) and you get incredibly mediocre talent where a "full stack web developer" produces very little over 3 years and has an atrophied skill set. Forced me to hire based on side projects and active Github projects to weed out the huge amount of mediocrity.

Bezos has political aspirations, and honestly, this makes sense from the perspective of already having massive data center presence there. He will now have large numbers of employees added to both Maryland and Virginia, giving him much more influence with Congress since congressman in general kiss the ass of large employers in their districts.

Hopefully, he could have some positive influences on the Federal gov't, by having a contracting wing from Amazon that would help fix the awful, bloated, IBM-like state of the Federal agencies. They used to do great things, but like IBM, they have calcified into jobs programs with dead-sea effect staffing.




100%. My move from SF to DC was mind-blowing in the general expectations set on developers. Without hyperbole, a year of output at most gov't contracts is a couple weeks worth of work at a typical startup.


That plus it’s so much cheaper in DC. As someone who lives in the Bay Area but has to travel to DC a decent amount the complaints about DC housing costs are nothing compared to Palo Alto.

If Amazon is putting their campus there you should buy everything you can.


I’m in pretty much the reverse position, and also bought a house recently. Any time I was feeling frustrated about the housing market here, I just pulled up a search of Bay Area properties, or talked to my California colleagues about their struggles with real estate, and I felt a lot better.

This is not a cheap area by any means, but it’s far from the rarified heights of the more usual Big Tech areas.


Yeah - median housing price in Palo Alto is now 3.3 million.

I was looking at one bedroom condos in SF, but they’re around 850k to 900k for a small one.


Goodness. Sounds like some high quality software you’re working on.


I agree with this assessment. Bezos is definitely killing, not 2, but multiple birds with the HQ2 story. One is political influence and/or aspiration.

He can literally get great onsite political influence with DC based HQ2.

Imagine having a large group of employees under you whose close friend or family member works in sensitive or influential federal jobs.

I also love the spot in assessments about the inflated pay, degree mills, etc.


Wait why would Congress care about employees near DC, aside from the reps for VA and MD? I could believe Bezos wants to be near the political action... but DC doesn’t really have much pull in. National politics


You have the CIA, FBI, and NSA in the area...




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