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It’s more about a single massive company having such in-depth control over billions of personal mobile devices. That’s a worrisome situation.



Not sure what kind of "in-depth control" you're referencing.

This change did nothing to individual phones.

This simply prevents two organizations from deploying applications to phones with specific certificates. That's all.


They can control what happens on your phones and affect what apps can and cannot run. That's rather invasive.


I believe this is actually only true under very specific circumstances -- namely, enterprise certificates, which are used to distribute apps directly to employee devices, without going through the app store. If they decide to revoke a regular developer certificate, the apps already distributed through it are not affected in any way.

They can control which apps can and cannot run as long as those apps are intended for internal use by enterprises. That seems reasonable imo, given that these apps are also not subject to any approval process.


No, they can control what applications are allowed on their app store and control how the OS they distribute runs. Aside from those two things they can't really force anything that you haven't already allowed, or continue to operate.

Apple can't physically confiscate the phone or the data that you put onto it's hard drive (not talking about iCloud). It's yours. You can put linux on your iPhone if you want and there is nothing Apple can do about it.


There are 2 massive companies, not a single one and Google has far more marketshare globally with Android.

Details matter. Don’t leave them out.


Google blocking this kind of thing in android would be quite hard to near impossible...


On Android, one can sideload an app. Amazon has it's own app store. Chinese Android phones have their own. Android was initially designed with this kind of openness. In fact, Google didn't have an app store initially. Now, there are pros and cons to these approach. FB could be side loading Android apps all day long, doing who knows what, and there is not much Google can do about it. Now, if they were a bit smarter, they could've used a shell company's throwaway certificates. I cannot fathom why they would do something this shady using their own corporate certificates.


Yes it is, but if you're worried about that then this is a valuable lesson on why you should steer clear of apple products. Google knew this was the case and took the risk anyway, so they only have themselves to blame.

It's not just apple either. Using facebook, gmail, anything in the cloud and/or anything hosted, basically anything not under your control exposes you to the same risk. Most people don't care until it becomes a problem for them and by then it's too late.


You don't think there's a difference between a person buying an Apple device and Google working with Apple to run software on their devices?


Yes, google has no excuse not to know better. They did know better in fact, it's a selling point of their competing product. Corporations their size will typically run anything remotely important in house on their own machines so that they have control over it for exactly this sort of reason. Failing that they'll put contracts in place that specify notification periods and remediation steps so that the rug can't be pulled out from under them. Google knew this could happen and went ahead anyway, they accepted the risk and now they have to accept the consequences.

And let's not forget that google weren't working with apple, they were working around them.


I think you're mistaking what happened here. Google apparently broke the TOS which led to this issue.

This isn't a single person choosing differently. Employees and consumers buy and use iphones and Google has no choice in avoiding them. Doing so will only hurt their business, and they don't exactly have the leverage to demand whatever APIs and access they want.


Sure, and Facebook solely controls the messaging ability and photo storage for a significant percentage of their 2B+ users.




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