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>The market colluded to drive wages down

When you say things like that, do you actually have a mechanism in mind that enables this 'collusion'? Because to me, it sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory on the level of moon-landing denial.

And what wages are down? Programmers make very good salaries. There are people who go through a few weeks of coding boot camps and land good paying programming jobs - what other area (outside of commission sales) could you land such a position with a comparable level of experience/education background?

>Market rate means absolutely nothing about real value.

It means something. It tells you how valued your particular skills are to another individual.




What about formal agreements between Steve Jobs, Sergey Brin, and Larry Page? Documented, litigated, proved in court. http://fortune.com/2015/09/03/koh-anti-poach-order/

your assertion that a few weeks of coding bootcamp can land a good job is highly suspect. I can assert that I know of community college graduates who are teaching at MIT. My assertion holds as much water as yours!


>What about formal agreements between Steve Jobs, Sergey Brin, and Larry Page? Documented, litigated, proved in court. http://fortune.com/2015/09/03/koh-anti-poach-order/

What about it? That certainly happened, but like you said, it was documented, litigated, and the offending parties paid big fines.

Where is the rest of the market collusion keeping wages down?

>your assertion that a few weeks of coding bootcamp can land a good job is highly suspect.

There are some numbers out there. Here's one: https://www.switchup.org/rankings/coding-bootcamp-survey

Half of bootcamp attendees had less than 50 hours of experience. On average bootcamp alumni saw a $20k salary increase in their first job after completing the bootcamp.

So now your assertion holds less water than mine.




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