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Democracy is high maintenance, it needs the people to be vigilant all the time, ultimately democracy is the people instead of a fancy term, as you can see the outcomes of democracies are hardly the same.

So when the people just want more income, easier life and minimal seemingly irrelevant political hassle, either caused by their history or indoctrination, the "China Model" can be very attractive.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/world/africa/ethiopia-gov...




I don’t know how “minimal political hassle” and “China Model” can be used in the same sentence. Looks like censorship is working pretty well.

Sorry, but your argument does not make sense. People want all of the things you mentioned in all societies.

People who want to live in a modern democracy do not experience lots of political fights because they want it. It is because a modern democracy makes it all visible to all members of democracy that there are so many different voices, right or wrong. Other political systems try to hide that fact by either killing or censoring. And eventually all of them collapse.

Any current issues of modern democracies are “the current issues” that need to be solved. It is naive to say that there are systems that solve all problems. Not even close. I just prefer my system to not hide current problems in my society, so I can work on them.


I'm not advocating and peddling the "China Model", I'm only speaking my understanding dealing with it. More often than not countries are controlled by the priviledged, and they can more easily shaped people' mind now.

When you pitch democracy to Chinese, the vast majority of them will rebut your every arguement with their pragmatic "narrative", they only want a tiny part of it or simply don't. Their upper class tour western countries and see dilapitated infrastruture, "people being poor", streets not safe, cities old "like villages", they feel proud.

And the system essentially hijacked their wealth, it will be too costly to change, care only about how much money made and what to buy and nothing else.

Until the "China Model" suddenly collapses, it will be shiny to some.




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