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Maybe I’m just dense, but I certainly have not been productive with any language on day 3. (Not even Ruby, which feels comfortable faster than most languages.) I sometimes felt productive that soon but I always end up having to rewrite once I learn the language fully.

I’ve learned enough languages that I can spot “a person’s first program in X” now pretty easily.




My background is freelancing/consulting where it's not uncommon to gather diverse individuals to work on a greenfield project.

There's an implicit assumption that all participants know a thing or two about programming, and accordingly are apt learners.

So yes, on day 3 the code won't be perfect, neither on day 6 but after a few code reviews one can get stuff done.

Personally I wouldn't be comfortable prescribing Clojure for such a project, in contrast to other languages which I've never coded in, but that I know that socially, today, work better.


Yeah, same. But it does help a lot having a professionally developed project with lots of high quality, real world examples of how to do things.




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