The height for me was when Chris talked about the Python integration, somewhere after 0:24:30. Marco asks jokingly: "can you also do PHP integration?" Chris is silent for two seconds, then continues as though nobody said anything :-)
To be fair, he does answer the question a minute later.
https://atp.fm/episodes/371
It's a bit of an outlier, most ATP episodes are Apple focussed news with adjecent tech interests. Episode 371 is not that.