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How does the vitamin D help? More energetic/awake?



===== Melatonin ======

The effects of melatonin are super noticeable. It's like taking drugs: you pop a pill, and feel different 30 minutes later. Melatonin makes me feel drowsy.

There is no placebo here. After 15 to 20 minutes, I always get irritated and ask myself: why doesn't it work?!

It does, just a bit later.

===== Vitamin D ======

Sorry that I'm sourceless on this. I read somewhere that melatonin and vitamin D are inversely related in their cycles of when they peak. Someone suggested to take it in the morning.

Regardless of whether the timing is off or right, vitamin D is needed to not be depressed [1]. So this part might be a placebo (like I care, I'm pragmatic) and at best it does something.

I do notice that it indeed prevents me from feeling like shit by virtue of sitting inside all the time. That also might be a placebo (I still don't care, placebo's are demonized and it's a competitive advantage if you accept it). The trend has been going on for 2 weeks now.

[1] Note: there are way more sources. I just did a quick Google search and picked the first URL I could find.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29943744


I read quite a few comment of people people taking vitamin D in the morning because of my comment, so I bothered to look up some sources.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-time-to-take-vitam... (a few good sources are in that link)

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/c5aycbSsSc38XWPEc/taking-vit... (this reports that the morning evidence is only anecdotal)


If you take a lot of vitamine D, you also want to take some extra vitamine k2.

However, vitamin D and calcium supplementation along with vitamin K deficiency might also induce long-term soft tissue calcification and CVD, particularly in vitamin K antagonist users and other high-risk populations

(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613455/)


And if you're using K2 for that reason, you may just as well make sure it's Mk7 all-trans.

I forget my source for that, but a quick search turns up a lot, even after you skip all the shops. For example [1], which seems reasonably serious.

[1] https://www.nutraceuticalbusinessreview.com/news/article_pag...


That is the one I buy usually indeed :)


Thanks! I bought some Mk7.


I've been a chronic insomniac for as long as I can remember and melatonin changed my life. Recently though, I've been having trouble getting to sleep again, and waking during the night. I've also recently started taking Vitamin D at the same time as my melatonin and hadn't twigged that that might be why. So thanks, gonna switch that one to the morning.


Hm ok. I already take melatonin similarly to how you do, but I might try vitamin D in the morning.




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