Sure. We can start with you explaining why an oil fire in North Dakota is related to a electrical fire in Australia. Are the policies involved in the creation of the oil well related to the Australian government?
Was there a conflict in funding of some kind? Did the American Congress decide to withhold funding from one project in order to build the other? Are the two projects related in any way?
EDIT: Do people even use oil as an energy storage mechanism? I don't think so. The closest "dirty" energy analog is in fact, natural gas (which are used in peaker plants). I don't believe oil is used outside of baseload power plants.
Look, I'm well read and knowledgeable of many facts and disasters. I can even one-up you, and point out the Centralia mine fire, which has devastated a town and continues to burn today (In case you want to 'PROVE' that I'm anti-greenhouse gas and pro-environment, I know of plenty of anti-coal / anti-oil arguments myself). But there's almost no relevance from the Centralia mine fire vs this Australian battery fire. I'm not going to be bringing that up unless there's some kind of connection.
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The classic example of "Whataboutism" is when the Russians are asked about gulags, they respond about riots in the USA. You ignore the original question and instead distract the issue by talking about something your rivals are doing.
Just puts into perspective the news coverage of a battery fire vs an oil fire.
The Tesla fire reminded me to try and get the latest safety info on batteries vs oil / gas fires as its not real clear to me yet and immediately this oil well fire pops up and surprised me. I hadn't heard one thing about it reminding me how common place those kind of fires are and uninteresting a week long one is outside of the local news.
I thought it would be interesting to post here to maybe spure some insightful discussion about the safety of each, instead I get reminded that bringing up such a thing is annoying to some of you and then get compared to Russian propaganda, but I'm the What-about-ist...
Why oil fires? At a minimum, I'd think that natural gas fires are at least somewhat related (as batteries are expected to form a similar role as _natural gas_ peaker plants).
I can't think of any relevant link between oil and electrical batteries with regards to this story about the Australian battery pack. I assume there's an underlying reason why you're comparing the two?
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Would it be relevant if I were to discuss the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster as part of this Australian news story? I think we both agree that Fukushima is a utility-scale environmental disaster related to energy grids. But even then, I wouldn't know exactly what the point would be to bring up Fukushima over this.
Just trying to give you an idea from where I'm coming from. Yeah, environmental disasters happen and they continue to happen constantly. But I'm trying to figure out why that's relevant to Australia and/or its battery pack.
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Are you implying that you want us to treat electrical battery installations as dangerously as oil fields and oil wells?
Where I live in FL,US one third of the peaker plants are oil from my understanding. There are plenty of oil and natural gas storage all over the US including at the peaker plants.
I am actually more interested in automobile fires, where both batteries and oil (refined in gasoline or diesel or even plastic) are the main worries, but I simply searched oil fire safety as I was focused more on power plants from this story.
Nuclear seems to have no problem getting reported on the news, so I didn't feel the need to bring it up although there is a lot to discuss there on real safety vs percieved.
Oh please. You're a Tesla fanatic and apologist that can't help but spam post in every single topic even remotely associated with electric cars, and the only thing you're doing here is trying to deflect from obviously bad press about your favorite company in the whole entire world.
Was there a conflict in funding of some kind? Did the American Congress decide to withhold funding from one project in order to build the other? Are the two projects related in any way?
EDIT: Do people even use oil as an energy storage mechanism? I don't think so. The closest "dirty" energy analog is in fact, natural gas (which are used in peaker plants). I don't believe oil is used outside of baseload power plants.
Look, I'm well read and knowledgeable of many facts and disasters. I can even one-up you, and point out the Centralia mine fire, which has devastated a town and continues to burn today (In case you want to 'PROVE' that I'm anti-greenhouse gas and pro-environment, I know of plenty of anti-coal / anti-oil arguments myself). But there's almost no relevance from the Centralia mine fire vs this Australian battery fire. I'm not going to be bringing that up unless there's some kind of connection.
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The classic example of "Whataboutism" is when the Russians are asked about gulags, they respond about riots in the USA. You ignore the original question and instead distract the issue by talking about something your rivals are doing.