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I was going to say I hate those brittle hard plastic jewel cases but there are many better form factors out there and this blog post shows box sets made from better materials.

At higher bitrates mp3 (and AAC) is OK, but through good headphones the difference between common 128kbps mp3 files and CD audio is night and day.




128k mp3s haven't been "common" in years.

Every store I know that sells MP3s gives you either 320k CBR, or a high quality VBR encoding. Neither is perceptively different (by humans) from a CD, even with the best equipment.

And most stores are now offering lossless downloads anyway.

If you're making your own MP3s, don't make 128k MP3s.

Later codecs (AAC, Vorbis, Opus, etc.) all allow you to use fewer bits for the same quality.


I still have a NAS full of nasty 128kbps MP3 files I really should just delete. All that time ripping CDs 20 years ago wasn't a complete waste of time, the MP3 player I had only had a tiny amount of memory and the fledgling NAS I had didn't have a lot of disk space as it was.

Time to delete them has come though, funnily it's much quicker to <arrgh me hearties> CDs I already own than rip them myself.


I prefer to rip my own CDs if only because I don't trust someone else to do it right.


I’m the opposite: I trust others to do it better than I can.


> Neither is perceptively different (by humans) from a CD, even with the best equipment

I think there is way more individual differences here than what some people assume. I have a few friends that often perceive way more details in images and image quality than me, to the point that some compressions that are fine for me will bother them. I think the same is true with sound: some people will benefit from CD quality, and some others won't.

That may also depend on the music that people listen to. If the tests are not made with the music you listen to, is the result the same? Is there a way to say "there's no difference for song X, so there is also no difference for song Y"?


>Neither is perceptively different (by humans) from a CD, even with the best equipment.

There are certain trouble files that can't be encoded well with MP3 even at 320k. I once successfully ABXY tested one such file 20 times in a row.


These kind of examples are always encoder specific, and even encoder setting specific. They are never general rules.


You're probably right to a large degree, but this page has people saying the file is distinguishable with multiple different audio formats even:

https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=120193.0


I have yet to find the encoder that encodes The Downward Spiral good enough where I can't AB test it from the CD. The album is neigh unlistenable on Youtube.

That particular disc seems to have been made at the cross roads time during which seamless natural-sounding digital effects were possible in music, but were still blocky enough in implementation to cause some type of Moire effect with digital encoders.


Higher bitrates are better than “OK”. 320kbps MP3s are indistinguishable (by human ears) from CD quality audio (FLAC/ALAC/PCM/WAV).

Both are a night and day difference from 128kbps.

Agreed about jewel cases - I have about 150 odd CDs and I just -despise- the cheap jewel cases.


> Higher bitrates are better than “OK”. 320kbps MP3s are indistinguishable (by human ears) from CD quality audio (FLAC/ALAC/PCM/WAV).

It depends on what you are listening to. High dinamic range (classical music for example) is hit hard by the mp3 compressor.


Jewel cases are horrible.

The box sets above mostly house the jewel cases in a plastic moulding (which helps them not get damaged). The "Tougher than tough" set unfortunately uses the digipak style of packaging, so when the little plastic fingers in the CD centre start failing, the disks fall out every time you open it up and it can't be repaired. Not sure how they managed to come up with packaging that was worse than jewel cases, but digipaks succeeded remarkably well at just that.




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