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Ad hominem, anyone? While "Perl" and language criticism in one headline might be worth a "teehee" moment, I fail to see any arguments in the article that seem to stem from the pedigree of the author. The only time he mentions Perl is when he's talking about threading, where there's some kind of feature parity – and he's not too happy about it.

Never mind that Perl hackers do have a certain penchant for language hacking (understandably…), starting with a plethora of object systems (Moose getting quite popular) and ending in extreme absurdity[1].

[1]: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~damian/papers/HTML/Perligata....




Hey, some Perl hackers are not business types working on serious software, but some of them are great hackers nonetheless ... it's also a good thing you haven't seen Damian Conway in a presentation talking about programming in a Klingon dialect. Your head might have exploded from the sheer absurdity of it - but me, I was standing there thinking about a time when programming was fun for me and I loved every second of it.

Also, calling an ad-hominem while insulting an entire community? Really?


Several of his arguments stem from his perl heritage. He gives a nod to moose's roles when complaining about Dart's weak OO (I actually agree with this one), advocates implicit conversions in stupid Perl-like ways, whines about + overloading in ways only a Perl user would, and relates Isolates to Perl's threads in ways that don't make sense based on my reading of the language spec (Perl's threads are way worse than what dart's seem to be!). Perl is directly visible in over half of his points! Some of his arguments are actually valid, but some obviously stem from his mind being corrupted from too much Perl use.


> Ad hominem, anyone? While "Perl" and language criticism in one headline might be worth a "teehee" moment

And my comment was just that: a "teehee" moment.

Oh, and "ad hominem" means "against a person". I only pointed to the irony of future-language advice coming from the Perl camp, never said anything against the validity of said advice or the person giving it.


Note that I didn't reply to your original post. While one might argue whether this really is irony or just a tired "haha, Perl" joke (or about the applicability of ad hominem by association), I was referring to the more immediate "envy" issue. Not that I don't regret posting, as I don't think digressing in this direction is worth a discussion here – although that would've taken place without my contribution.

"Perl, right, yafeelme?" is basically the "What's the deal with airline food?" of the programming world…




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