A charging comparison between the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Audi e-tron GT (same platform as the Taycan), Audi e-tron 55, and a Tesla Model 3 Long Range: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gxcukAhIAU
Those non-Tesla speed numbers are only at certain rare chargers.
Remember Volkswagen Group hacking their own emissions tests? Reminds me of that.
Good luck traveling and finding those speeds. It’s more like “oh look we have an existence proof of a handful of fast chargers but none where you are going…” well, OK. I’d rather have a well built out network.
The finishing order was Porsche Taycan, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model X, Tesla Model 3, Ford Mustang Mach-e.
As ever, your mileage may vary.
> I’d rather have a well built out network.
Then what you want is CCS chargers with all brands of EV being able to charge at all brands of charger. Europe's leading the way on this. Most EVs use CCS in Europe (even Tesla).
Tesla is yet to switch to CCS in North America. Maybe they will soon.
I would not trust that event to be a fair assessment.
The organizer does sponsorships with auto companies, and I can’t tell whether this was sponsored by Porsche, but, from his behavior, it seems like it was… seeing more and more of this on YouTube lately and it’s often not clearly disclosed.
The website mentions transparency, but I really don’t see any transparency here, although I will admit I have not been able to locate any fine print revealing the nature of the relationship with Porsche. The site basically just has a contact button and not much else. It looks not very transparent so I’d be wary.
And they had highly uncharacteristic issues with the Tesla superchargers during the trip, which possibly could have been known in advance, as part of the set up to tilt the board against Tesla by choosing this time to travel that route.
I stopped by a local Electrify America charger today just out of curiosity, and there was no 350 charger there, only 150. And usually there is only one 350 station if any. The nearby Supercharger in the same parking lot (though not open yet, still roped off) is 250 x 16 stations… kind of an overwhelming advantage there, one that can only be overcome by paid sponsored events that aim to plant false perceptions.
Even so, when we do get CCS for Tesla, that is yet another piece of good news for Tesla, because then we will have even more charging options over and above having the best Supercharger network, so the Porsche team will do well to get good at buying publicity.
Don’t be confused, I’m not saying all this to gloat, but more to say you should think twice before spending money on a competing car if you are relying on sketch events for data points.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not convinced you know what you're talking about either.
Tesla is already CCS in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, etc. The European Tesla charging stations are already opening to all brands of EV.
The US is behind but eventually it will catch up. It's just a function of the US EV market being one third the size of the European EV market. Money will go to the bigger markets first and then the smaller markets will follow.
All brands being on the same charging standard is a good thing. You can fuel any brand of ICE vehicle at any brand of fueling station and you should be able to charge any brand of EV at any brand of charging station. Anything less than that just makes EVs worse.
You make bizarre unfounded claims that there's some anti-Tesla, pro-Porsche conspiracy afoot purely because you can't handle the idea that two CCS cars out-road tripped two Teslas, and you think you know something? This thread has gone absolutely nowhere.
You don't need to bless my heart. You need to cultivate some perspective.
Musk's announced that Superchargers will have a CCS connector in some way (separate CCS cable or adapter that plugs onto the top of the Tesla connector).
I thought it was odd that you claimed those chargers are rare, turns out they are - in the US.
According to [0], there are only a few 350kW chargers in the US, mostly in the Northeast. If you look at the same map in Europe, they're pretty common on long-distance travel routes.
I wonder why this is? Is it related to US electrical infrastructure? I know in much of Europe it's common to have 3-phase electricity at home, for example.
I have a Porsche Taycan, and while it can charge 250kw/h, it only last for a few minutes. On average fast charging from 20% to 80% takes 30-45 minutes. This is with a heated battery and on Ionity network.
The Porsche Taycan can do 0 to 80% in 21 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrkAeTWDed4
A charging comparison between the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Audi e-tron GT (same platform as the Taycan), Audi e-tron 55, and a Tesla Model 3 Long Range: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gxcukAhIAU