I mean no offense, but it looks like you're just providing guesswork and making up answers.

> "I would highly suspect in a court of law that is not true."

OK, but why, and in what court and in what legal system?

> "You see, you have a contract with the registar for the ___domain."

It's not the registrar that sells the ___domain. They are brokers between registrant and the entity owning the TLD, and registrars also have domestic laws to abide to.

> "You can put whatever information you want there ..."

No you can't, not in European nations part of the EU. While not legally enforced, registrars based here are required to request and urge customers to put accurate and truthful information there. Some of them (e.g. OVH) even require personal identification documents in order to register a ___domain. In my case, with my .se ___domain, I cannot change anything in the contact records without providing verifiable identification data - part of which goes into my contact records.

> I mean no offense, but it looks like you're just providing guesswork and making up answers.

I mean, I literally went and changed the email on a ___domain to check if what you said was true. And validated that your claim was false.

Secondly, contracts are a thing. I am not sure why you think that you would have a contract with the registar is something that is guess work or made up. I'm also confused as to why contract law 101 isn't a thing you know.

> OK, but why, and in what court and in what legal system?

Why? Because contracts are a thing. And pretty much all of them. You know the first thing a judge will ask if it's being question who owns a ___domain? Who paid for it. The second thing will ask is what registar account it belongs to. The email address on the ___domain record would get ignored for the more important aspects that obtain to the fundamentals of law. It's like if you pay for a book but someone else writes their name on it. The judge isn't going to say "Oh but he wrote his name on it."

So many people think that judges care about small little details. They don't the case would be happened quickly and swiftly. It would be a minor case and the judge would literally ask basic information to obtain who owns it. Paying for it and having it in your ___domain regsitar account would statsify them that it belongs to you. If you honestly think a judge would listen to a claim of "But your honor my client came into possession of this email address and that email address is listed as a contact email for a ___domain so it belongs to my client" I don't really know what to tell you. It's not how the world works.

> It's not the registrar that sells the ___domain. They are brokers between registrant and the entity owning the TLD, and registrars also have domestic laws to abide to.

So here is how contracts work. You have a contract with the registar and they have a contract with the registery. There are obivously some clauses in there. But there will not be a clause that allows them to transfer that ___domain to another user/registar without your approval and that often comes from you going to their site and requesting the transfer code. And I don't remember when I did a transfer I had to confirm the email on the record.

> No you can't, not in European nations part of the EU. While not legally enforced, registrars based here are required to request and urge customers to put accurate and truthful information there.

That legally enforced part is a major thing. And request and urging is different from requiring. In fact, go do some whois and I'll be you find you can't find the information for any of domains you whois since they have whois privacy.

Quite simply, the idea that forgetting to update an email in a ___domain record means someone else owns your ___domain is ignorant of the law and how thing things work.

I'm just gonna sift through the filibustering and address what sticks out:

> "I mean, I literally went and changed the email on a ___domain to check if what you said was true. And validated that your claim was false."

You changed it on your ___domain, on your registrar. This doesn't the slightest invalidate the requirements and procedures that I am faced with when doing the same with my ___domain/TLD, on my registrar, abiding to domestic laws in my country.

> "Quite simply, the idea that forgetting to update an email in a ___domain record means someone else owns your ___domain is ignorant of the law and how thing things work."

It means what I said: the contact in the record is the legal owner of the ___domain, and also has rights to confirm a ___domain transfer, to alter the other contact records, and to change the NS records of the ___domain, no matter if that contact/e-mail is still me or someone else.

In the case of my TLD (.se) that contact is also the only one who's legally allowed to obtain an unredacted WHOIS from the registry. This information is not public for .se.

This keep this very on point. This is about whether or not losing access to a ___domain name means you lose ownership.

> abiding to domestic laws in my country.

Just to confirm, you country is Sweden, right? The Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that a ___domain name is property. All member states of the EU must implement and have laws that follow EU laws. This means that the Court Of Justice of the European Union's decision must be upheld in all EU countries of they face penalties. This is echod by the Swedish Supreme court's deicision that domains are property that can be seized in The Pirate Bay case. Sweden like every other country has written laws and case law on the ownership of property. This stuff was solved and settled so many years ago it's hard to even guess when.

So let's put a line under this. In the country of Sweden your ___domain name is property of you, by law. Ownership of property doesn't change hands because you registered an gmail address. Just like ownership of property doesn't change hands because you move into an address that someone was previously there. I'm sure Sweden has laws about mail. Just because it arrived at your address does not make it yours.