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The UK is in a shocking state of decline, so not sure what metrics you are using there?

Widespread unemployment, hunger, life expectancies in decline, 1,000 people are dying a month from the botched "response" to covid. Hundreds of thousands in early graves due to same covid response, and before that already over a hundred thousand in early graves as a result of austerity. The political system seems to have completely collapsed and be unable to respond to crises or meet even the most basic survival needs of its population.

I wouldn't lay this on the feet of the monarchy, cos the elected officials seem to be the main cause of it.

But which republics are you looking at? Because I live in one, and I can't imagine moving back to the UK any time soon. Again, I don't think that's because it's a republic, it just happens to have a basically functioning political an economic system that hasn't (yet) failed.




> The UK is in a shocking state of decline, so not sure what metrics you are using there?

Metric is where "I" would raise my family, and based on all other western options, monarchies would come first; Brasilians idolises US, I can tell you because I was one of them, but them once you grow up and have a little more exposure to the world and different cultures, the current state it encounters itself it would be one of the last places I would live, because of its recurrent issues, mainly gun control, healthcare, I would also included woman's health birth choices under healthcare, those being the top ones, are a sad joke.

Of course everything depends on which stage one is at life, at the moment this is what I think with a young family, maybe if I was single just leaving Brasil, I would have fell in love with it, but that is not my experience. * At the moment I am fortunate enough to work from NZ with an US salary, and maybe when I am older I might retire on a Spanish villa, who knows, but US is not what it used to be.

> ...1,000 people are dying a month from the botched "response" to covid...

How many republics appear before the first monarch country in this[1] list? [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat...

> I wouldn't lay this on the feet of the monarchy, cos the elected officials seem to be the main cause of it. Me neither, but it is hard not to conclude that the further away a country have been "independent" the worse it is.

* I have been on some business trips to US. PS: Other countries I would consider would be AU, NZ, UK, CA and Nordics, also I could not care less who is running what, as long as my family is safe and I have peace of mind.


I think you’re overstating the decline. But yes too much democracy in Brexit and a badly designed democracy with the first past the post system. Widespread apathy to politics doesn’t help either.


Among peer countries it is uniquely non-resilient and unable to respond to the challenges it faces. Even with the covid disaster, it was very lucky that it has a fantastic institution like the NHS, which politicians have, so far, been unable to completely cripple or dominate. And also lucky to still have a serious pharma industry, literally the very industry that is needed to respond to a pandemic crisis. So you'd think given that fact, plus it's huge wealth, it would have had to have had one of the best COVID responses in the world?

The paradox of the UK is that it has a lot of wealth, many institutions and industries which still function and have not yet collapsed. But the political system itself has completely collapsed, and the economy is faltering badly.

The US is in a similar situation. But, of course, still leading the world in many regards.




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