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People like the smart in smart tvs when they just bought it but 6 months in almost nobody uses it because 9 out of 10 times it just stinks. They use a chromecast, Apple TV or some other set top box.



My parents still use all the smart TV features in their 4+ year old LG C8. They don't have any streaming boxes, I tried to give them my old Apple TV a year ago but they didn't like the remote (don't blame them for that, it is garbage).

They use Netflix, BBC iPlayer, YouTube and the Disney+ apps daily. No complaints other than when the wifi sometimes goes out but that isn't a fault of the TV.


I can guarantee you that most people aren’t buying extra devices to watch TV when the apps they use are built in. Most people definitely aren’t buying $150 AppleTV devices. Roku is by far the most popular streaming device and they are aggressive about getting their software included with most low end TVs.


> I can guarantee you that most people aren’t buying extra devices to watch TV when the apps they use are built in.

No shit, the reason you jailbreak a tv is to put apps on it that were not built in (or remove apps that are intrusive.) This is just like saying that people who are happy with things aren't unhappy with things.


> …but 6 months in almost nobody uses it because 9 out of 10 times it just stinks. They use a chromecast, Apple TV or some other set top box.

The parent commenter claimed that “almost nobody uses” the built in smart TV features. This is false outside of whatever tiny bubble they are in.


Set top boxes and chromecasts are selling pretty well so obviously people are using them, but I guess there’s quite some people content with using a mediocre implementation, for as long as the api that’s used is supported by YouTube and Netflix.

It probably depends on the kind of crowd you sample.


Set top boxes if they ever sold well are very much declining in popularity as most TVs have the same OS preinstalled.

Roku by itself comes pre-installed on almost 40% of new TVs

https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/roku-claims-38-all-smart-t...

Manufacturers have just started installing FireTV software.

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/amazon-vp-shares-ho...

And Google has been in the game for awhile with preinstalled Android.


I’m not sure how references that show that smart TVs contain smart software support the claim that set top boxes are declining in popularity.


Are you going to buy a Roku stick if your TV already has built in Roku? Are you going to buy a TV with Amazon FireTV built in and then buy a Roku stick or vice versa?


Yes, if I think or conclude the smart in smart tvs sucks and I can’t buy a non-smart tv because they simply are not for sale, I will not use the smart in the smart tv and replace it with another, better solution.


Do you think you’re in the majority?

A few observations:

1. I can’t stand watching TVs in many hotels because of settings, you get the “soap opera effect”. My wife isn’t bothered by it.

2. Most cable boxes had channels with both the standard definition feeds and HD feeds. How many times have you seen people watching the SD feeds on large TVs and it didn’t bother them?

3. On another note: how many people do you see walking around with cracked phone screens who you know could afford to get it fixed. But it doesn’t bother them? I couldn’t even deal with a scratch on my screen. Related : bad displays because of a screen protector on their phones and it doesn’t bother them.


I never said that I am in any way representing a majority.

You incredulously ask: Are you going to X?

I say: yes, I am going to X.

I’m not sure what your anecdotes are purporting to say. Clearly neither of us has done the research, I made an observation, you made another. Get over it.


Do you have any evidence of that?

Anecdotally, that's not true of people I know (and even less so for people not in tech), but anecdotes are not particularly useful.


That's obviously not true. I hardly know anyone who uses external devices. I have a Chromecast but never use it after I got a smart TV.




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