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Wow - lots of opinions on front-end dev. Not much of a surprise. It is a bloated mess. But "breaking up with JavaScript"? There's no way to build anything useful without JavaScript.

Build it without frameworks? Absolutely! Build with HTMX? Makes sense to me. It's a light-weight and isolated extension. It would be great if such partial load semantics was added to the web standard.

Isn't the core question whether the web client is stateless or not?

My front ends have been very stateful for long time. But I build desktop equivalent web apps. I jumped on the AJAX track in 2000 and never looked back. My state has been represented in XML ever since. I sync with server via "updategram" semantics (borrowed from SQLXML), and transform state into HTML with XSLT in the browser. I use no frameworks or libraries/ Has served me very well for 20 years and likely will until retirement.




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