Ah yes. There's no such thing as a safe party, which is why I always wear my stab vest and helmet to my mom's Thanksgiving dinner.
You might want to look up this thing called "civilization", where we've been creating safe spaces for the last 5,000 years. Maybe it's just a passing fad, but I'm hopeful for it.
Well, GP seems to have edited their comment to flip its meaning 180°; earlier, IIRC (don't have a cached copy up) they were advocating for establishment of "safe spaces" of the kind that people who use term "safe spaces" establish - which for everyone else are more like digital equivalent of Lebensraum[0].
I meant mozman's reply to your comment, not your comment.
And I'm absolutely in agreement with yours - I've seen this playing out on Mastodon first-hand. The federated model, as implemented by Fediverse, turns out to be extremely vulnerable to bullies.
(Kind of like a bunch of independent, friendly villages end up being vulnerable to a smart warlord. It's arguably a big part of what historically drove creation of countries and empires.)
From the comment I replied to. People getting up in their arms and attacking others for no good reason does not seem very jovial. It seems dumb, childish, and immature, which yes, is what I expect from a random sampling of people.
I don’t want safe spaces, I simply prefer to surround myself with people not being idiots and assholes, it makes life far more relaxing.
How is this representative of real life? Like where do you live where people are toxic to you to your face and harass you, honest to god I don’t really see that in my life at least. It’s pretty clear that people behave differently when given anonymity, shouldn’t we try to “emulate real life” at least in the way we interact with each other on the daily?
It happens. I know someone who was called a dictator, fascist, silencer and worse by his coworkers for the sin of asking people to take political discussions to a different slack channel than the engineering team's main one. I know a few other people who work there, and can confirm it isn't just him; the place is just plain toxic.
Imagine his surprise when he was basically pushed out of the company in less than a year.
I'd normally say "good for him, he dodged a bullet, he's not going to be hurt by fallout once the company gets so rotten inside it collapses on itself". Unfortunately, this is not an isolated trend; if it keeps up, we'll see a whole generation of people with minds filled with hate, and I'm not sure the society can survive it undamaged.
> called a dictator, fascist, silencer and worse by his coworkers
That company's HR department must be fascinating
> to take political discussions
I'm really curious what you're considering "political discussions" here, and if it includes "please stop using ethnic slurs in git commit messages" or something like that
As soon as he found that this behavior was condoned by management there, he should have started looking for a new job. Obviously, he's not a "cultural fit" for that company.
There are a lot of really crappy companies out there with toxic cultures; don't stick around in one if you don't have to.
In real life, people who harass or assault get sued or otherwise. We have built spaces for XYZ set of people for thousands of years. If you can't behave with some civility, go live in the forest and away from society.
There's a lot of irony in expressing what you did in one of the most heavily moderated forums.
