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Amazon and Google are still amazing. What better alternatives did they drive out?



Amazon sucks. Every single search on Amazon now gives entire pages of identical white-label Chinese junk with randomly-generated brand names, which are designed to go out of business and reappear under a different name as soon as you file a complaint. For most things I've gone back to either Alibaba-- since it's the same stuff as Amazon usually for way less money-- or just shopping at physical retail stores since they have at least some brand and quality assurance that Amazon completely lacks.


Exactly, the irony of it is now basically the only thing I order through Amazon are used books, so in the end we're back where we started.


How are they “amazing”? Amazon is full of counterfeit or cheap products. Granted amazon’s delivery is amazing their marketplace is a cesspit. Google’s search is horrible. Cant find anything in my inbox or google drive even if i double quote the search terms. Not to mention search result spamming with sites that have been seo’d to death.

The alternatives have always been there and still are but struggling to compete due to amazon and google sheer budgets where they simply sell services and products at a dumping price.


Google search on mobile is so bad now I am increasingly reluctant to bother searching for things rather than just going straight to Wikipedia or somewhere else to find information. 80% of the page is "knowledge graph" junk, trending junk, boxes with "short videos" and "visual stories", and now if you scroll to the bottom and miss the button for "more search results", they just start showing you results for completely different searches!

Also very pissed off about their decision to replace the search categories (images, videos, news, etc) with yet more "smart" suggestions. It makes it completely unpredictable where I need to click to get to images, which is what I'm looking for 99% of the time. E.g. searching "radiohead" now shows buttons for "songs", "members", "albums", "videos", "merchandise", and finally--after scrolling the list to the side--"images". Terrible!


Just the other day I did a search for “filename” (filename was not the actual input string) in my google drive and it found no results.

I did a search for “tar.gz” the extension the file i searched, and guess what? It was found.

I dont know what they are doing but this doesnt sound like a tech issue - it worked fine in the past. Now everything seems to have gotten broken. Google is sleepwalking into an altavista scenario. We need an alternative asap.


> Amazon is full of counterfeit or cheap products.

It's trivial to select who you want to buy from on Amazon.

I've been using their retail service for 25 years and have had only a few orders out of hundreds be messed up. And they always correct mistakes and make it right.

Stop selecting terrible sellers to buy from. Buy from Amazon. It takes seconds to switch over to them as the seller. That nearly entirely eliminates the problem you're describing with minimal hassle.


They drove out their own, better product that existed 5-10 years ago.

Now they are extracting their monopoly rents.


It is good for Amazon’s owners that they moved out of the sub 5% profit margin retail business, and maintained their 15%+ profit margin platform and logistics business.




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