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> beyond "conservative family-oriented religious" really lies "proposing to make homosexual marriage illegal".

Right, it often does. But yet again, that means that people do get cancelled because of voicing and supporting socially conservative beliefs.

> it's just being conservative

Heteronormative is an important part of social conservatism in the US. If you think that's not the case, I'd be curious to know what do you think a person who is "just" socially conservative believes in.




If you want a very specific thing, which is to ban gay marriage, then you can't demand to put it under some broad term or be called some softer term as distraction. Otherwise you're just self-censoring because there is no point in arguing semantics.

If merely your own preference were "heterosexuality, family-oriented and religious" without interfering in other's lives, then of course "homophobic" would not apply and nobody would call you that.

> what do you think a person who is "just" socially conservative believes in.

"Conservative" can mean many things, I admit that especially in the US it can mean opposing homosexual marriage. But the article was speaking in global terms ("every functioning civilization for all of human history"), and in that context it can mean many even more many different things.

All in all I find this game of "secretly being homophobic" pathetic, and that you would quote "That’s Not Happening and It’s Good That It Is" is extremely ironic. Just be straight with it and say that you hate gays, or that certain people are lesser people or whatever you think. You're gonna get in trouble anyway. Or is it worth the trouble to hate people? Good luck.


> All in all I find this game of "secretly being homophobic" pathetic, and that you would quote "That’s Not Happening and It’s Good That It Is" is extremely ironic. Just be straight with it and say that you hate gays, or that certain people are lesser people or whatever you think. You're gonna get in trouble anyway. Or is it worth the trouble to hate people? Good luck.

This last paragraph is just a boring personal attack/implicit threat, and obviously not OK. You are not going to have a lot of luck convincing people who disagree with you like that. And you may get yourself in trouble on HN. [1]

[1]: From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html:

> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

> Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.




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