>Are you saying we should pour concrete over land as long as there's land remaining? Let's try to have a more nuanced discussion perhaps
Here's nuance. The entire population of the world could live in Texas with an American quality of life. A back yard and a lawn, a 2 car garage, etc. And that's just Texas. Where are you from?
>The opposite, dedicating space to park 5 cars some of the time instead of 100 people living is the waste of money here. This doesn't even take into account damage to the planet from spreading people all over it.
This doesn't damage the planet. Building skyscrapers to line pockets of bankers so they can build so close together that trees and crops can't grow in the surrounding area is damaging.
>Only if you make it bad, I've seen some comfy skyscrapers.
Really? Did they keep chickens and goats in their apartment? Did they plant forests in their balcony?
> The entire population of the world could live in Texas with an American quality of life
Yeah. Everyone would have sub 90 sq meters of space for everything, and there would be zero space for any sort of forest, park, a shopping mall or any roads for all those 8 billion cars. People would have to have drone deliveries for everything because roads would be gridlocked with all those cars and you won't get anywhere anyway. And better wear PPE mask outside at all times. Is that American lifestyle?
> Crops can't grow
If you spread 100 families on surface and give everyone 90 sq meters, that's all gone area for crops. Add infrastructure, electricity, piping, roads and junctions to handle private traffic. Add maintenance. But if you stack em vertically in the space of a medium sized parking lot the remaining space is all crops or trees or whatever.
> Did they keep chickens and goats in their apartment?
Sounds like animal cruelty to me
> Did they plant forests in their balcony?
No but a forest is available within walking distance. In your ideal world really no one leaves their designated box for a healthy daily walk? Ah right, I forgot about 6 lanes of traffic to cross.
The US has a density of 30 people per km2. When you apply your points to reality they look pretty ridiculous. There's so much land it's stupid to suggest anything about parking. It scares me that people like you vote based on ridiculous misconceptions like this one.
Homelessness has absolutely nothing to do with land scarcity or parking lots.
Why would you do that? Are you planning to use the extreme example that I used to show how much EXTRA land would be available outside of Texas to actually suggest that we all move there? That wouldn't further your point much, would it?
Yeah I am also trying to understand why you gave your extreme example, it doesn't help your point but it helps mine. If you put the entire planet population in the area of TX but build tall, people would live in better comfort than if you make it one large suburbia.
The extreme example shows that there is practically infinite land. And that having trees, grass, and nature between dwellings is far superior for the environment. Why you would want to destroy that unless you're an evil bank investor is not explained in your commentary. You don't seem to have a real point other than you poke fun at the example, as if you didn't understand it. But I know you did. You just don't want to admit it, obviously.
If it's infinite then why not give everyone 100 sq km mansion and fly to visit each other? It's not like we need to worry about sustainability or something right?
You just don't want to admit it. Dense areas are better in every way. Better for economy, more profitable, more efficient, sustainable. The only reason to be opposed is if you are afraid that real estate you own will start going down in price because everyone suddenly needs less land for everything.
They aren't. You are lapping up marketing drivel from big builders.
Delivery of goods is the prime transportation issue in carbon footprint. Delivery of goods is multiplied in high density areas. Multiple vacuum cleaners, one for each apartment, rather than 5 people sharing a house, they each live in separate one bedroom apartments with separate things. 5 times the deliveries, 5 times the manufacturing, 5 times the pollution, not just carbon.
Here's nuance. The entire population of the world could live in Texas with an American quality of life. A back yard and a lawn, a 2 car garage, etc. And that's just Texas. Where are you from?
>The opposite, dedicating space to park 5 cars some of the time instead of 100 people living is the waste of money here. This doesn't even take into account damage to the planet from spreading people all over it.
This doesn't damage the planet. Building skyscrapers to line pockets of bankers so they can build so close together that trees and crops can't grow in the surrounding area is damaging.
>Only if you make it bad, I've seen some comfy skyscrapers.
Really? Did they keep chickens and goats in their apartment? Did they plant forests in their balcony?