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Upcoming Firefox Support Changes (dropping Win2K, XP RTM, XP SP1) (blog.mozilla.com)
28 points by jhack on March 25, 2012 | hide | past | favorite | 11 comments



... but this support change allows us to significantly improve Firefox performance on Windows by using a more modern build system.

Does anyone have any info on the new build system? Last I checked they still used make which is installed via the mozilla tools.


Apparently the big change is to use Visual Studio 2010 for the Windows builds.

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2012/01/end-of-f...


In particular, the current version of Firefox kept struggling to link within a 4GB address space. Hence the comments about "having had to back out and ultimately delay some important new features like SPDY": nothing about SPDY itself, but it happened to push the link above 4GB and cause builds to fail, so it got temporarily dropped.


Thanks for the link. It appears the actual build system will still be based on make but just requiring the toolchain inside vs2010 (currently you can use vs2005-2010). Am I correct here?


Which means Server 2003 RTM is also dropped, BTW.


I wonder why they don't apply http://tedwvc.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/how-to-get-visual-c-2... to fix it and keep it runable on Windows 2000, even though Uniscribe might still show some bugs with Arabic text, etc.



> In the years since Firefox 3.6, we've make incredible improvements to Firefox, including . . . Firefox Sync

This is off-topic, but Firefox Sync screwed up my bookmarks on more than one occasion. Nowadays, most of my 5K+ bookmarks have taken refuge in Pinboard, but Firefox 11 with Sync enabled still occasionally loses, duplicates, or randomly reorders the handful of local bookmarks that remain. People used to complain about this when Sync was first released as an add-on to Firefox 3.6. They still haven't fixed it!

Overall speed and reliability, on the other hand, has improved beyond recognition. Maybe I should thank Chrome for nudging Firefox to improve.


People used to complain about this when Sync was first released as an add-on to Firefox 3.6. They still haven't fixed it!

I did a cursory search on Mozilla's Bugzilla and did not find any bugs with this issue involving a recent version of Firefox. Have you filed a bug (or voted on an existing bug) about your issue?


Similar issues with bookmark synchronization have been raised over and over by many people, on various versions of FF ranging from 3.6 to 9.x, on various platforms (including mobile), all with inconclusive results: see bugs 721635, 718154, 627830, 622588, etc.

I wish I could contribute some definitive bug report, but it's really difficult to reproduce the strange behavior and I often don't find out until several days or even weeks later, by which time the logs are gone.

Unfortunately, the addons.mozilla.org thread where a lot of people reported the same behavior seems to have been deleted when the Sync add-on for FF3.6 was removed.


Similar issues with bookmark synchronization have been raised over and over by many people, on various versions of FF ranging from 3.6 to 9.x, on various platforms

Of the bugs you mentioned, only one of them [1] involves a desktop version of Firefox later than 3.6.3. The reporter there is also syncing with his Android phone and an iOS device. The developers who responded suggest that it might have to do with the Android Sync implementation.

...when the Sync add-on for FF3.6 was removed.

The aforementioned bug notes [2]:

Most of the issues with bookmark sync occur as a result of using the old Firefox Sync add-on and not the version of Sync bundled with Firefox itself.

This would seem to be confirmation that the old Sync addon had issues, but that they should now be fixed. The fact that the majority of reported bugs involving Sync involve Firefox 3.6.3 (or are resolved, like some of the bugs you mention), and that there are none that I can fix involve versions 10 or 11, do not support your assertion that Sync has issues with bookmark sync that "still haven't been fixed."

I understand you want to create a "definitive" report, but it would be good to still go ahead and create a bug about your issue (where actual Sync developers could help you debug it), instead of complaining about it on Hacker News.

[1]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721635

[2]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721635#c3




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