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> overzealous mods shutting down my questions in the most condescending tone possible.

SO moderator here. We just click a link. The pre-defined close reasons are inserted automatically. No one is taking a tone with you.




The comments moderators post are pretty condescending. They turned me off from SO. Not to mention the condescending nature of your comment here.


After calling us overzealous and condescending do you expect a hug?


The fact that you use automation to produce your responses doesn't make you any less responsible for them.


I'm not shirking responsibility for putting the responses there. I'm saying that they aren't condescending. The messages are to inform people why their question was closed and to help them improve it.


If the messages are written in a tone that people generally find condescending, then they are condescending. The intent may be positive but doesn't change the impact of the writing style.

As a matter of interest, do these template responses make it clear that they are indeed templates and not hand written?


They're not inserted as comments, but as a block of text that's offset from the rest of the post, so I think it's pretty clear that they're auto-inserted. You can search the site for "closed:1" to find questions with different messages that get inserted.

http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=closed%3A1


Fair enough - it does look obvious to me that those are automatic 'rubber stamps'.

They don't read as particularly condescending to me, but I imagine that if one was used in error or with questionable judgement it might well come off that way.

Is there any mechanism for quality control on how they are used?


There is some control over how they're used. In most cases it takes 5 users with at least 3000 reputation to vote to close a question. The close reason that the majority selected is the one that gets displayed. Moderators (and employees of Stack Exchange) can close questions with a single vote if they're flagged, but we generally try to encourage people to use close votes if they have that ability.

Also, any closed question can be reopened by community vote whether it was closed by a moderator or by voting.


It doesn't seem condescending to me, I think the people being moderated are just taking it too personally and can't believe that they unwittingly committed a faux pas.


We just click a link

Comments.

No one is taking a tone with you.

Oh, the irony.


Comments. What about them? The close message is auto-inserted so we don't have to take the time to comment.

Irony, no. My tone here is a response to being called overzealous and condescending. It has nothing to do with my attitude when I'm acting as moderator on SO.


I don't understand why you seem to be attempting to speak for all moderators. I don't know or care what your attitude is about moderation, I'm speaking of my own personal experience with SO moderators.


Provide some links, please.


There's no need for anyone to provide links. A lot of people are complaining about this. And as soon as anyone tries to post in meta about this issue (the issue of mods over-zealously closing questions), these posts in meta get downvoted to no avail and there's a flamefest of "high horse" posts... By mods! Constantly defending themselves, just like you do here. It's always the same "link or it didn't happen" and then the exact same "oh but I wasn't using a 'tone' here". Yes you were. And you know it. And several people here agree...


"Link or it didn't happen" is a perfectly valid response to empty complaints that provide no evidence. As a moderator I'm in a position to actually do something about real problems. If you just whine and complain without giving me a link I can't do anything about it.

No, I wasn't taking a tone. If I was I wouldn't say that I wasn't. If you perceived a tone, it's on your end. I'd thank you to not call me a liar.


I'm not linking my online identities.


And you don't have to. And you do not have to answer to that SO mod's request here for several people here agree with you and know you're not making this up.


That word: I don't think it means what you think it means.


Sorry, no grammar cop points for you. That was a correct usage of the word "irony."


Not sure the point was to be grammar cop. I, at least, took it as a line from The Princess Bride (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes?qt=qt0482717)


No, it wasn't. Either he was implying the SO mod was being inappropriate (wrong), or he used the word incorrectly.


>>> in the most condescending tone possible.

>> No one is taking a tone with you.

> Oh, the irony.

Condescendingly telling someone "nobody is taking a tone with you." That's the irony you're missing.




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