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> very expensive 10g

For me it's just 2€ more expensive than the standard 1g plan. It's really unfortunate to see how bad internet prices are, especially in the US and other countries with ISP monopolies. The only reason my internet is so relatively cheap is because early on there was a lot of competition in my country.




That isn't what is expensive.

If you get 10 GB, the question is, then what? I have bidirectional 1 GB plugged into a $200 EdgeSwitch, which then feeds Cat 6 throughout the home ($100/500 feet). This then filters down to $20-30 unmanaged 1 GB switches elsewhere. The whole thing is under $500.

If I wanted to go up to 10 GB I don't just need to change to a $2K~ EdgeSwitch, I also need to run fiber/6E to be able to deliver more than 2.5 GB to any endpoint, then invest in expensive switching infrastructure elsewhere in the home to turn the incoming 10 GB signal into something more devices can accept (e.g. 1 GB or 2.5 GB).

Safe estimate, is to go from 1 GB bidirectional to 10 GB bidirectional, it would be $5K in equipment and pulling new cable.

For $100/month I can do 10 GB, but I won't because of the equipment cost/diminishing returns rather than the ISP cost difference. If network equipment comes a LONG way, and I can do it for under $1K, I'd consider it.


Correction: you can usually run 10Gbit/s over CAT5e if the cables are not too long, so you probably won't need to replace your cables. But the hardware is indeed expensive.


That isn't a correction, that is pedantry. Nobody is going to spend $100/month and thousands on equipment and then run their 10 Gbit/s network on 5e. The lengths to remain stable won't even bridge floors of a home let alone from end-to-end.

If it was free in terms of equipment, you might have a point. Since then 10 GB is just a "bonus" but it isn't, or even close. So you'd be cheaping out on the final 10% of the cost.


I'm not sure what you mean, good quality CAT5e cables should easily give you 10Gbit/s under 30m. If it works, why replace it?


> The lengths to remain stable won't even bridge floors of a home let alone from end-to-end.

This isn't true. I've run 10gbit over cat5e many times in 10-30m lengths. That might not be enough for end to end on your house (although it is for many peoples), but it's certainly fine between floors.

10gbit switches are becoming significantly more common. Vendors like fs.com and even Netgear offer some reasonably priced options. Mikrotik and other vendors offer better (pricier) options, but assumedly if you want 10gbit (or even 1gbit) you're an enthusiast or business anyway.


There's much cheaper equipment than $2K. Try something from Mikrotik. They have offerings for 100G for less than half of that.


Can you say what country?


With Digi in Spain 10G is €5 more than 1G - https://www.digimobil.es/fibra-optica/


I just got on Digi 10G and I measure 8 Gbit/s symmetric, for… €25. Who can complain about that?

Anyway, I hadn’t paid attention and yes turns out consumer hardware support is a bottleneck, not the actual ISP which is nuts. Seems like someone fell asleep at the wheel – I suspect people are gonna have a wake up once >1G becomes widespread – not even their new fancy motherboard will support it. It feels like for ages, it’s been the opposite - you buy hardware that is prepared for the future or at least the present. At least that’s how it’s been with SATA etc..

For instance, the cheapest NIC is like $75 and the router can only do 10G on one port. Wifi6 does not get near those speeds either and even so laptops have to be very new (even my M1 does not have full support for the 802.11ax thingy - partner’s M2 was at least able to pull ~1.6 Gbit/s). Switches and routers are premium priced.

However, I was very impressed with the silent progression of cat cables, they’re just better and better ever iteration, backwards compatible and dirt cheap. Got a cat8 which is way, way more than I need for like €1/meter. And they’re flat and easy to pull long distances. Beautiful tech!




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