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Ethernet is switched and under 20Mb/s is more than usable for everything unless you transfer movie files and wait, in which it would take like up a few minutes to watch a video. If you browse it's more than enough.



In that's your usecase, it's better to save yourself the hassle and just set up good WiFi


20 Mb/s is terrible. Sure, it'll work in some sense, but I'd go mad if that's the best I could get. A good wifi setup is way better than a cabled 20 Mb/s unless you absolutely need consist and better latency for some reason.


Doesn't a modern Wi-fi still has worse ping than CAT4 cable?


He said hard to reach places. If an old house has CAT4 in the basement, I'll take the lower pings, reliability, and at worst I'll WebDAV. Unless your home server is in the basement I can't see a normal realistic scenario where the data transfer isn't sufficient.


If you get old equipment to go with your old cabling, ethernet is not necessarily switched. 10 and 100 can be run as a shared medium.

Re: the sibling's suggestion of wifi: If your cabling works at 100, I think the case is pretty clear for wired 100 vs wifi; consistent 100m is better than variable whatever you get. At 10m, not so clear, especially since cabling that's that old is also likely to be daisy chained, so you're looking at maybe a daisy chain of switches running at 10m. That said, cabling is often better than the spec it was tested to, and ethernet cable requirements are for long runs in dense conduit; it's worth trying 100M on old telephone wiring if it's already in the wall to see what you can get.


Worth trying on a shorter run of CAT3, yes. Worth trying on a standard untwisted two pair phone line? Nope. Good luck getting even 5meters.


My 4k blu ray rips range between 60 and 100 GB. These would not even be close watchable over 20mb/s.

Let's not even talk about how miserable it would be to download modern games over this.


Streaming 20mb/s is more than sufficient for video. I don't transfer 60gb blurays daily so it doesn't matter to me.


1. It's not enough when you're on an active connection doing other things at the same time as the video. Live streams at full quality will use a third to half of 20Mbps and demand very little interruption. Loading a single page with a few images can interfere. And even dedicated 20Mbps, with tightly encoded content, can be too little for 4k.

2. The idea in the comment is streaming at original bluray quality. Not transferring.


Maybe 720P, but I've got 4k Blu ray movies that have peaks of over 200Mb/s when streaming and my device always stutters over those sections.


20mb/s is not sufficient for 4k video unless it has been bitcrushed to death. And even then, you are assuming a given network only has a single user.

Also, I stream actual blu-ray rips over my network all the time, not just transferring them.


This feels exactly like "I don't have ethernet cards capable of 100Mbps so scp can't copy files faster than 10Mbps is not OpenSSH's problem".


> Streaming 20mb/s is more than sufficient for video.

On a 120" display?


20Mb/s is enough? Is this a joke? A single youtube full HD stream can reach 7Mb/s. Literallywatching a youtube movie and doing something else will saturate that link. In fact I think it's so low it will negatively impact basic website loading time. Just going to reddit.com loads 18.2 MB of resources. This will take about 8 seconds on your "useable for everything".


My internet connection has 15Mb/s down Thank you very much. So while I'm not your parent I can totally see how that 20 is totally fine. So if you are in a corner of the house you can't get Wifi to that's on par why not use that cable if it exists?

Would I want to use it to transfer large files around internally nowadays? No.

Works for everything else assuming you are the only user of that cable in that corner basement room? Absolutely.

Also insert appropriate "kids these days" joke. I guess it's like HD. Once you have it, you are not going back. Do I need a triple A game I just bought and want to play to download in 2 minutes vs 2 hours? No. But kids these days expect it I guess. No patience.


> No patience.

Or maybe they want to stream UHD content?


20Mb/s isn't 20mbps.


20Mb/s is twenty megabit per second. Twenty megabyte per second is 20MB/s notice that the b must be capitalized for byte instead of bit.


That’s exactly what it is. 20MB/s isn’t 20mbps, it would be 160mbps.


I always thought Mb/s meant megabytes and mb/S was megabit




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