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> You are the one asking if iMessage is “free” (as in beer) software.

No, i was asking if it was free in respect to beeper, because the beeper not being free is literally the comment i replied to. I feel like you're looking at my comment in isolation, but expecting me to keep your comment in context - which also seems to be lacking context.




graphe: “iMessage is reliable, ‘free’ and encrypted. Beeper mini is unreliable, paid, and encrypted. I wouldn’t recommend it anymore to my Android friends.“

You: “Is it free? I have it bundled as part of my hardware purchases. Is there somewhere to get it without paying?”

Not sure where the confusion is. Seems from the quoted text you were expressly asking if iMessage was free or not.

If not, what is the “it” you were referring to in your reply? Your initial response did not seem to compare cost to beeper.


I was definitely referring to iMessage. I was just saying that the conversation is about Beeper and iMessage. The comparison was taken place in the quote you posted.

Anyway, i'm just saying that the mints on a hotel pillow are "free" too, but if you cannot acquire them without paying for another service or hardware, they're hardly free.

Best i can give iMessage is that it's complementary. Please correct me if i'm wrong, but almost no one gets iMessage without paying Apple for an associated product to gain access. It's a mint on your pillow.


There’s barely a nuance between “free” and “complementary”.

Both are essentially the same thing.

https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/free-vs-complimentary


I dunno, it just feels some silly definition or thought experiment to define away the money missing from my wallet.

I'll concede all day long that i may be using the wrong definition, that's definitely not my objection. However free is pretty simple. Entrance fees or any price blocking you from the "free" thing is in any practical sense, hardly free. At least imo.

A lot of things are free if you ignore what you paid for in the first place.

Out of curiosity, how would you even define what is free and what isn't? Lets say a snickers bar released an April Fools edition where you paid the standard price, but only for the wrapper. The snickers bar inside is free. Or the silly paper clip example i gave, with beeper mini. Is there some definition that you would see apt to describe these as practically (as in, how people would interpret them) not being free?




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